gordo's lies again...or is it still?

If my child lied as much as gordo does, that child would be grounded forever! I cannot believe how he gets away with it. As he lies, he blames the NDP, the world situation, falling dollar, and what gordo said, "The economy lied to me". What crap is that? All you righties, focus on one thing, and one thing only, he is a criminal, a liar, and a convicted drug abuser, (Yes booze is a drug). Its time for him to go to jail. Then we will have a better then ever chance to get our province back on track. Then we go after the rest of them, Coleman, Hansen, Clarke, etc. A clean sweep!

backbone some

Nice to see Carole for a change call it like it is.

Too bad she didn't do it during the election. Perhaps it is because even her too little to late attack comes across like a nice mommy scolding a cranky child.

Almost laughable Gordon.

Saying that Campbell's election was based on lies is a "personal attack? Am I reading this correctly? What planet does Campbell and his bunch live on. It sure isn't this one. Anyone out there wean to start an action for election fraud on these guys. I'm interested.

Gordon, its you that hasn't learned a damn thing about integrity.

More laughter.

It (HST) wasn't on their radar back in Februrary. It was recommended by their folks on the BC Progress Board in December. THe economy was not as bad. Hell it was worse than you were saying it was and everyone was telling you your budget figuers were bogus Gordon.

The truth is you were sailing through a fog with your radar deliberately switched to the year 2002. You deliberately lied when the truth was you didn't knwo what you were doing because to actually find out meant you might have to admit you couldn't run a peanut stand. You woke up too late Gordon!

Remember Carole Taylor

One of her comments as she delivered her last budget was that she was very concerned about the downturn in the US housing market and the number of foreclosures.
Guess Gordo wasn't listening. The global recession became very evident in October 2008. Was Gordo out to lunch?
His Holiness must think we are all deaf, dumb, blind, and stupid to try to pull off this robbery of the taxpayers.
He keeps yapping about NDP deficits when, in fact, there was a surplus when he took over. Anyone remember those cheques he sent out?
Someone should call Cameron Ward to determine whether there is a legal case to be made here. Or the Pivot Law Society. Action is needed soon. We need to preserve some integrity in this province. Who can remember when "A man's word was his bond."
Good manners were in style then, too.
900 seniors robbed of their services in
White Rock...this is obscene.

Lies, and more lies

Unless Campbell's finance ministry is composed of nothing but morons, he was fully aware by last December that the BC economy and so its revenues had tanked.

He lied about it so that at election time he could avoid having to answer vote-losing questions.

northern insights

Check out Norman Farrell at Northern Insights for this story about his misrepresentations here
http://northerninsights.blogspot.com/2009/08/deceitful-voices-trash-democracy.html#comments

One reason the NDP didn't win

First a disclosure: I am an NDP'er. There, I've said it. But having said it, I can better explain why the NDP lost the election.

OK, there was the Gag Law that restricted free speech in the lead-up to the election. And there is the unconscionable fact that virtually the entire corporate news media industry in BC is actively engaged in an ongoing campaign to keep the Campbell Liberals in office (including CBC Radio, whose local radio hosts and producers have exhibited a blatant anti-NDP bias).

But in many ways, the BC NDP signed their own political death certificate, when they released an election platform that entirely adopted the BC Liberal government's fiscal budget framework as the basis for their spending plan.

Of course they knew that the Campbell's revenue projections were way out of whack. Every single economist in the province knew that. But they needed that overly-optimistic revenue framework to support their spending promises.

That fact, combined with their abandoment of opposition to the carbon tax after the elction, has impaired their ability to fully take advantage of the political opportunities presented to them by this historic double-cross by the Campbell government, on the HST, deficit and other issues.

And so, while I agree with Carole's assertions about the lies and cover-upby the Libs, a small part of me says, 'You sleep with the one who brung you.' And in the last election, the BC NDPs election platform was a warmed-over version of the Liberals, and is a large part of the reason the party lost the election.

dance my dear dance

Good points Krispy but its dance not sleep with the one that brung ya. This is very bad advice for young ladies.

Given all that, the economic record of the previous NDP regime was better than the current one and by far if you add in the IPP and PPP off the books debt.

Not once did James stand a fight on those issues. And she had lots of air and print time to it. Showed her up as a coward and confirmed to the voter that she was indeed not ready for the job.

Personal attacks

Here's a personal attack:

Gordon, your glasses look funny.

Here's a political attack:

Gordon, you lied about the HST.

And they continue to lie.

There is a reason he makes the claim.

Claim anything as a "personal attach" in the hopes that the media will avoid quoting the actual words. You then avoid having to respond to a comment which is a direct assessment of your election campaign and how you (Campbell) conducted yourself. Let's just see if the Canwest media even repeats the comment after this.

It'll take Change

The NDP need to dump James and move to the political centre if they want a hope of being elected. You can't dive 4% points or so when Campbell is getting panned as bad as he is for the HST

If the NDP can't get it right, then bring back the PDA!

Do I hear violins....?

"If I was going to criticize myself directly, I'd say I guess I should preface all my remarks by saying this is a very unpredictable time, because it is," he said. "When you do what's right, I think in the longterm that always pays off."

Funny stuff.

The thing is, Mr. Premier, it is an unpredictable time precisely "because of" governments like yours.

Your government was not a victim of these unpredictable times despite the coy and clever ruse to portray yourselves as such.

No, quite to the contrary, your reckless policies, like those of all neo-conservative governments both negligently lit this economic wildfire and fueled its unpredictability at an ever-increasing rate.

Do not portray yourself or your government as any kind of innocent observer or victim of the world economic crisis.

You, foolish sir, and your foolish government have engendered, provoked and promoted the very same kind of deceitful economic policies that have brought the world to its knees.

You have entrenched those same suicidal running-on-empty economic policies, here, on our home turf of BC.

So take a bow, sir.

All the credit goes to you....and to those in the orchestra pit who played along.

Jeddy

The NDP can't get move more to the centre than they already are with James. Tha majority of her critics are on the Left, not in the Centre.

And I mostly agree with Krispy on James' platform and post-election dropping of the carbon tax except for the point about losing the election over it.

You are right Frank.

James' problem is that she does not offer a strong alternative vision and does not give the impression that she has any "fire" in her. After two loses when her name is raised people's eyes role. They need to find somebody who can overcome the Canwest boycott, not by catering to the media wimps but by sheer weight of popularity. It should start soon but alas the inner sanctum still calls the shots.

can anything ACTUALLY be done?

A simple question, but factually ,actually and legally, can this gang of parasites be removed from office for breach of contract, false promises or deceit? Their litany of lies,amending their own laws so they can be broken or subverted, the disappearence of key documents,the collusion to hide information etc. etc etc Their whole MO would make a maggot gag.

You know Skywalker

If I'm not mistaken you have said before you never read Canwest news anymore. If thats true, then how can you constantly make claims about what is, or is not, reported there, and the qaulity of the reporting?
Countless times I've read here on the Tyee about something "that would never see the light of day!" in the MSM, when in fact I've already seen it in the MSM before it made the Tyee. Understandable, the Tyee doesn't have the resources of the big guys and does what it can.
But how about the things that never see the light of day in the Tyee that are certainly newsworthy.
How about Constance Barnes, in the news again lately for her DUI (and subsequent events)
And heres another one for you Skywalker - the Fastcats have been sold! It's actually old news but I thought you'd like to know.
I eagerly await Tyee BCF file holder Andrew Macleods report

Campaign Lies

Everyone contact Pivot...the legal advocacy group in Vancouver that does such great work...to see whether or not a class action suit can be brought against each and every Liberal MLA by the voters of each riding. My riding voted NDP but I plan to contact Pivot anyway. Election fraud has to be a crime...all the Liberal voters were completely deceived...

Lynn

"So take a bow, sir.

All the credit goes to you....and to those in the orchestra pit who played along."

Again, what an elegant post! Lynn. It is obvious, the emperor has no clothes.

SIG

skywalker

Carole James doesn't have a problem. As Frank said a short while ago, "Give 'em hell, you're doing a fine job."

I thought opposition parties were there to inform us...

I don't want blustering, I don't want media bytes, I want facts. I thought it was the job of the opposition to keep government accountable to the people. It seems these days that both sides manipulate the facts based on positioning themselves in the polls. Accountable government seems to be out of fashion, or it just isn't entertaining enough to grab our attention and pay for advertising.

Happy!

Defending Canwest? You must be content with Canwest practice of a mention of an issue that casts Campbell in a negative light in the second section while all the puffy pieces are on the front page and the editorial page. Nothing has changed from 15 years ago. Those few times periodically that I pick up a copy at the local library (for free mind you) I find nothing has changed. Then I am forced by the cable vision subscriber to occasionally watch BCTV or CTV sifting through the news entertainment on some Hollywood celebrity to find an important story covered in 20 seconds because they don't want to get into the sordid details of another financial blunder by Campbell. It's the same mind numbing crap as Canwest. You may like it but it is deliberate.

R/man

Yeah right. You must think we are all naive.

The NDP are not doing their job at all as far as I am concerned

There is a long and growing list of serious injustices in BC. I can't list them all, and Tyee readers already know most of them.

The one that sicks in my craw is the sinking of the Queen of the North, and the cover-up operation. Since we know nothing about what happened on the bridge that night, we are free to speculate wildly on the events, so here is my wildest speculation.

David Hahn ordered Karen Bricker and Karl Lilgert to sink the boat to give hiom and excuse to replace it. This is obviously ludicrous, but it fits all the facts as we have them, and in the complete absence of any information to the contrary, I suggest that it is a plausible explanation.

It is the only explanation that fits with David Hahn's complete stonewalling and the RCMP's failure to bring charges in the deaths of two passengers.

So why isn't Carol James hammering on the Liberal's door and demanding a full and public accounting of this tragedy? Why aren't the people of BC demanding an answer? It beats me. I can see why Gordon Campbell is soft on BC Ferries - he knows all about driving drunk.

If another issue were needed, the cities of Vancouver and Victoria still dump raw sewage into the ocean. The local resident orcas are the most contaminated mammals on the face of the earth. It takes an act of Olympian mental gymnastics to avoid connecting these dots.

Both these issues relate directly to the BC tourism industry. If anyone disagrees, tell me how many times have you taken your family to the local landfill for a vacation? Would you buy a ticket on the Titanic? There you go. People talk about this stuff behind our backs, and they are staying away from BC in droves. On mst trip to Alberta, for example, the Queen of the North sinking was the first dinner table topic that came up. People are not stupid. They follow the news and they are disgusted.

The NDP doesn't really have a credible platform; there is not real opposition to the Liberal machine. It is all rather sad, actually.

NDP deficiencies

Fish-counter says:

The NDP doesn't really have a credible platform; there is not real opposition to the Liberal machine. It is all rather sad, actually.

This week the Mustel Group poll had the Libs down 8 points, the NDP up only 4 points. The trend throughout summer polling has been a declining Liberal support due to public anger, but an NDP that fails to inspire, an opposition that flounders and stagnates as it continues to try and define itself with voters. With public anger at a 10-year high, Campbell backed into a corner like a caged rat, all Carole James can produce among voters is a little 4 point rise in the polls? Given the obvious Liberal wrongdoings and level of outcry, the gap should be much bigger than it is.

I watched Adrian Dix just tear up the Liberals in QP this week; he has the passion, the fight, the articulation his leader so badly lacks. I really think the NDP made a huge mistake in not pushing Carole to gracefully step down on election night. It is costing them, the polls show it. It will cost them the election in 4 years.

And has anyone noticed the conspicuous absence in BC's political scene of organized labour? Sinclair appeared yesterday to remind us that BC is about to have the lowest minimum wage in the nation, but otherwise, where the solidarity? I lived through the Bennett restraint era of the 80's and the one things I recall most is that massive groundswell of solidified anger, led by labour.

This upcoming budget revision will be the most painful a generation of BCers will have seen, so if this can't inspire a decent revolt among the NDP and their labour allies, say goodnight.

Agreed

the news media for the most part doesn't give us the real news. How many people were actually on the parliment lawn when this sesson started?? It wouldhve been good to see how many there were BUT no its a secret still because they reported on a couple of dozen - Hummm - with the number of petitions to get rid of or stop the hst and get rid of gordo I wonder how many were actually there??

Gag orders

A federal out ranks a provincial law so how come a gag order can stop the truth from being told??

Polls....

Polls mean nothing until the last few months before an election. The government will do their unpopular deeds very early on in their term. When the economy revives, they will take the credit and run on it.

The HST makes sense. The sniveling about it here is simply partisan politics. Had the NDP introduced it, it would be the saving of social democracy. As of July 1, 2009, seven provinces comprising roughly 80% of Canada's population will have an HST, along with all the OECD countries excluding the USA.

You can all blow hot air about revolts and recalls but you all know that you will pay the new tax.

Oh, I loved the bit how the HST will make car repairs more expensive. The PST is already on both parts and labour.

I also loved the comment about more people shopping in Alberta. That province how has a $7 bn deficit in a population that us roughly a million less than ours.

Wilfred, dream on.

Don't you ever get tired of baying at the moon? Yes, if the NDP had introduced increased taxes after promising not to, if the NDP had sold BC Rail after promising not to, if the NDP was selling off every BC resource for peanuts, if the NDP were cutting services, If the NDP lied about the state of the economy during an election, if, if .....we would all be sheep. Yeah right Wilfred. It didn't even happen in the 90's what makes you think it would happen now. The only difference, if it were the NDP, is that people would hear it every night on the Canwest News.

Blah, blah, blah.....

Skywalker, you are just blowing smoke. You lost the election in 2009. You lost in 2005. You lost in 2001. Get your party in shape and win in 2013. You can all spout your off the shelf dogma but the government knows darned well you'll never vote for them anyway so they could care less about you.

Until then the government will govern and the voters will make their choice in 2013.

Wilfred your most intelligent quote.

"Blah, blah, blah....." Says something doesn't it.

Same story, same day

Skywalker, it is the same story and a different day. You are hard core, left wing NDP and you detest anything a non-hard core NDP government does. Problem is there are no hard core left wing NDP governments in Canada. Same old same old and same old blowing smoke.

The government doesn't give a fiddler's you know what about you and tuned you out some time around 1948. Same with the larger portion of the electorate.

wayfarer

The NDP at 46% in a Mustel poll is pretty significant even if you don't believe it to be so.

Let's recall that according to Mustel the election itself shouldn't have even been close as they claimed the NDP had only 35% support. On election day the NDP got 7% more support than Mustel said they would get.

Historically Mustel always has the NDP doing worse than other pollsters, so 46% in a Mustel poll could be as high as 53% in an Angus Reid poll.

As for James not inspiring Liberal supporters, who cares? I don't expect conservatives to suddenly become NDPers, that just isn't a realistic scenario.

I instead expect them to vote for an actual Conservative party and not for Campbell. Which is the only way the NDP can win and has ever won.

nechakogal

"I thought it was the job of the opposition to keep government accountable to the people."

That is indeed what they are trying to do. Giving voice to those that are upset with government policies, that's their job and they're doing it.

Polls...

Frank, have a look at the polls circa 2002. In politics, four years is an eternity. A year is an eternity.

Not sure how the economy could have deceived him

instead of the other way around, since economists were telling it like it was since last Christmas. If he chose not to hear, he's incompetent and shouldn't be government. If he heard, and lied during the election, he shouldn't be government. As for the HST, when was the last time you heard of any level of government anywhere in Canada moving that fast on anything? He thinks we're really, really stupid because, up until now, we have been and he's gotten off the hook for everything. Well, this is it, Mr. Premier. The straw that broke the camel's back. Fighthst.com and sign up to help collect signatures on the Citizens' Petition and attend one of the rallies being held around the province on Sept. 19. Enough is enough!

Mary Jane..

someone who was at the protest on the Leg lawn spoke to a Victoria City Police Officer who estimated the crowed at about 800.

Wilfred...

Alberta has a 6.9 billion dollar deficit, but they did manage to save 17 billion for a rainy day. They also managed to give their residents cash cheques every year for awhile. Where's our rainy day fund?

800!

Wow, that is a lot. The demonstrations in 2001 pale in comparison. I am sure those 800 will cause the resignation of the government.

grass roots on the Lawn

by my quick calculation that means that 4 million, four hundred and thirty four thousand and something weren't there. did it rain that day?

Wilf

Yes, Campbell had high disapproval ratings in 2002 as well. However, the Libs still had a 22% lead on the NDP in August of 2002 and an 11% lead in October. The NDP remaining below 30% in both.

Of course polls change, its the trends that are important, not the actual numbers. Even our old friend Luke used to agree with that.

It all depends on the conservative voters, will they rejoin the Liberal fold or will this be the last straw for them and they decide en masse to vote for a different right-wing party.

Only time till tell.

Wilfred your most intelligent quote.

Wilfred, it is the same story and a different day. You are hard core, right wing Liberal/Tory/Reform and you detest anything a non-hard core right wing government does.. Same old same old and same old blowing smoke.

The government doesn't give a fiddler's you know what about you and tuned you out some time around 1948. They are doing anything they want and right now it happens to have your approval.

The question is for how long will it last?

I think 800 is pretty darn good..

for a first rally. Wait until Sept. 19 Wilfred and R/Man. You ain't seen nothing yet. It takes a while to build momentum, as you both know perfectly well. The momentum is building fellas, just wait and see.

sunshine coast girl

800 is a lot more than what showed up for a pro-Campbell rally.

During the campaign Campbell supporters were over the moon if 50 people not related to a Liberal MLA and not part of the media were at an event.

The NDP Would Have Won the Last Election

If the public was aware of the true state of BC affairs under the administration of the Liberals the NDP would be the ruling party today. Campbell knew it so did the media as he talked of a stable prosperous economy and steady employment prospects. No worries be happy, its an new era under Campbell rule.

Campbell just kept on telling people what he wanted them to hear while the media put its own spin on the event as evening newbroadcaster talks of the NDP blowing hot air or fear mongering when touching on the real issues. This was before the facts came out as the NDP knew Campbell wasn't telling the truth but try to prove it when Campbell and Company had taken the facts and secretly kept them from the public, like everything else. Its doesn't help when the media gives the Liberals all the strokes as corporations have their way with the province and no worries as TILMA sealed the deal.
I here the deficit is closer to 4 billion but I'm thinking five billion or more is more the reality.

The NDP are full of hot air broadcaster says as she talks of the HST and the NDP's questions to the premier in first sitting. Interesting to say the least as its not the NDP that is making things up but the premier as he promised his first born if BC was truly in a deficit. And I say which one, the legitimate family or the other ones Campbell keeps from the public.
Campbell was unnerved during question period and like a naughty child he continues on with the facade not excepting responsibility for anything.
What needs to be done well Campbell should go to his room and stay there and write a nice letter apologizing to the people of BC for failing to live up to their trust and then resign for a start. Now that would be the honest thing to do, or at least some integrity but don't expect that from Campbell those are qualities he does process unfortunately for BC.

Oh! Isn't It Suspicious

The premier doesn't know what going on around him? I know its rare for Campbell to show up for question period, not that you would get a straight answer. You don't think the premier is out of it again? Either way it doesn't add up no matter how the premier wants to spin the events and then treat British Colombians with additional contempt.
Because thats exactly what it is when you keep people from the truth you bridge a gap and its pretty sad from a man who based his career on transparency and accountability.

The NDP Would Have Won the Last Election

But they didn't.

Wilfred vs. morechatter

Such well articulated thoughtful and reasoned arguments from Wilf. But considering the "blah, blah blah" from his earlier post, this is an improvement. At this rate we may get something sensible, say by next year. You see when you are so far to the right of the political spectrum almost anything to the left of you, even if it is right in the middle, sounds like a raving left winger.

Morechatter is right on. Campbell lied to get elected and Wilfred gloats because the NDP did not win. I guess he is saying that all parties should do the same and what a wonderful world this would be. Yup compared to Wilf off the chart on the right, I can be rabid left-winger in contentment.

And Wilfred

I also can't see the NDP putting in a tax that would further bridge the gap between poverty and the rich. Its a gapping hole and the HST is going to blow it wide open. How is that going to equate to jobs for Canadians? It dosen't but it sounds good. Its going to cost jobs. Companies are more inclined to downsize to boost profits on top of those windfall public tax dollars to attract investors. Its what coporations do best. Make lots of money for investors while giving little in return. Hardly a fun group.
I'm traditionaly a Liberal fan myself and an occassional Conservative catches my eye and the NDP have some repairing to do with this province. Its something the party traditionaly does well. The NDP look like a party having fun. Campbell isn't looking very chipper or having much fun. You can tell he gets that pouty face.

Not planned

800 showed up with no planning that we know / knew of. WOW how many will show up to a planned event to get rid of gordo??

Pay attention

That old, overweight BIG MOUTH on CKNW will have Campbell as a guest on Monday Everyone should call in.

Anyone notice the Finance Minister's facelift and perm? And Gordo looking pasty faced, gaining weight, and staring straight ahead with those evil eyes.

Best part of the speech at the Leg was the final comment by the Lt. Gov. Media did not report this.

In March I called several unions and suggested they get made in Canada T-shirts saying SHUT UP.They did not. Only the ASIAN Post ran a front page story about SHUT UP BC.

Where is Gordon Wilson

Where are the unions

The Insanity Gene

Runs in Gordon Campbell`s family,the legislature,the throne speech,question period.

What shameless displays,lets start with the throne speech(written by Campbell) not one mention of child poverty,gang warfare,crystal meth epidemic,instead we got a selfish little speech about how the economy snuck up on us,with speed and deception.

More insults,he we go again,lets waste a week of legislative time re-writing the balanced budget law,this bill should be tossed,it never meant anything,never will mean anything,for this legislative piece of garbage should filed where the sun don`t shine.

Question period,what a display,Colin Hansen,his faced covered in lies,Campbell,white,pasty,glug glug glug,nothing said anymore about the BC Liberal than this....

The BC Liberal caucus gave Colin Hansen a standing ovation,a standing ovation where Hanse and Campbell giggled away are and arm,both fully acknowledging the election vistory based on fraud,deceit,there was no modesty,thet were proud of lying to electors,proud of the service cuts,proud of the largest deficit.

One can only hope that Campbell follows the lead of his dad and kills himself.

Intersting polls numbers,the NDP leading by 20 percentage points,the lies,the HST,will mean an official end to the BC Liberals,Campbell`s legacy of debt and lies and fiscal mismanagement,that is what he will be remebered for.

As for Wilfurd,you are a childmind,you have never once added anything to any discussion threads,you are vacant of thought,ideas,you can`t even defend the Liberals,you have but one line left,Campbell won,you lost,na na na na na,.......

Go-ahead Tyee, edit my comment,block me,for you to allow Wilfurd to blather out nothing but noise speaks more to your shortcomings than to my short fuse.

In fact MR. Beers.......You would be better served to have automated slag comments appear on political threads,say every 50 comments have a automatic comment saying "Campbell won,James lost,ha ha ha"

I vote for an automated slag to replace Wilfurd.

The minimum requirement to post comments should be that you have to contribute something.

Cheers

US Justice department

is now investigating Nortel. Someone should invite them to investigate Campbell and that snake in the grass Kinsella. How dare he hire a lawyer who dares tell a judge that if this sneak is named he will take it to the Supreme Court of Canada. There is a serious sickness in this province: delusions of grandeur!

It's the new religion, they're gonna pacify me...

Bend over now --> love the HST

On the positive side I see that Canwest shares were down to SIX CENTS the other day; indicating that lots of people don't love their betters.

Crafty Campbell and the Sun

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Crafty+Campbell+knew+risks/1883937/story.html
Campbell makes me dizzy with all his stories how does he keep track. I have an idea for our tipsy premier how about an nice stay say a Rehab, with golfing, therapy, etc. We'll loan him the money if need be, even give him a deal the people will insisit upon it. You know to help him get his story straight.

Rubber Stamp

Please don't go at Mr. Campbell's person. I do not wish the man ill if anything he need's help. And so does BC and if we don't always get what we want but we get what we need. I truly believe the NDP is a more caring group, more down to earth, with a long term vision for the province. Can the NDP articulate how the party will run this province before having a true picture of what the true state of affairs are? No, the NDP cannot do that but something tells me what NDP will do is govern this province with great care. And BC sure could use it, a government who actually cares about the futures of the voters and not the short term gratification of big business. Because in truth these corporations never make enough, just ask one of the CEO's as these busily acquire new holdings with profits in the quest of More profits. There just is never enough even if it means of picking the pockets of the poor.

Political system

The political system we have here in BC is only designed to benefit political parties, not the citizens. The MLA's we elect are beholden to their party not the constituents that elected them, and it always will be so until the system changes. This just puts too much power in the hands of one person, be it Liberal, NDP or whatever. That's why you get Fast Ferries, over budget convention centres and just out and out lies when the election is on. The premier should be elected at large and carry the role as more of a figurehead than a dictator. MLA's should be elected with no political party ties which would make them accountable to those that elected them. It is time for the politicians to start working for us rather than the other way around. The status quo just doesn't cut it anymore.

Obviously, you're ok with being lied to Wilfred..

But I'm sure the hell not. The Fight HST movement is gaining momentum. It's like a train rolling down the hill. Getting kinda scary, seems to have a mind of its own. Plans in the works for more than one rally. fighthst.com folks, and keep up with what's happening in beautiful British Columbia. I love this place when people have had enough....

Yawn......

Yup, there is gonna be a revolution, class warfare and the masses are going to rise up. Then they will all re fight the election they lost in May but since none of them voted Liberal anyway, the government won't give a good gull darn.

Or more likely the masses will pay the new tax and have forgotten all about it in 2013.

More thoughtful analysis from Wilf.

I guess we are back to the original post. And I was so hopeful.

Stating the obvious to non-Liberals!

So what are you going to do about it?

Fortunately for us Wilf,

a whole lot of them DID vote Liberal.

Campbell's a BC Liablity

If the people want Campbell gone, he will be gone as the winter olympics is approaching and the winter games seem to be cursed as have rain on the horizon and a real possiblity of pendemic to deal as air travel almos comes to a halt with the growing disatisfaction of Campbell's leadership. Just wait, things are not getting better and people are going to be angry and hurting and its all going to be directed at Campbell and his Olympics. Hardly a marketing ploy.
Campbell's political career is over, it is just a question of time which he is running short of. Just ask the people as I'm certain 80% would like to see the premier gone as he just isn't doing the job and can't be trusted. Qualities you look for in a leader, dishonesty I don't think so.

CAMPBELL FOLLOWING ORDERS

Just remember who's really in charge: big business. Campbell's job is to give business as much tax relief as possible. Cut spending to allow for more giveaways, subsidies and grants to business. Introduce laws that favour business over consumers. Sell whatever public assets he can to business. Etc. Campbell is nothing more than an agent of big business, doing their bidding. This type of government is happening around the world - as corporations take more and more control away from elected governments and transfer it to the boardrooms of trans-national corporations. WAKE UP PEOPLE!