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Aid Kids with Special Needs: Study

Report slams chronic 'underfunding' in BC schools.

By Tom Sandborn, 18 Jan 2008, TheTyee.ca

Classroom with teacher and kids

Finding: Most vulnerable underserved.

"I feel that these children are being punished, whether it is by ignoring, dismissing, or isolating, or a lack of resources, for something that came with birth. Why do we make the uphill battle even more difficult for them?" -- Parent of a special needs student, quoted in Langley Special Education Inquiry Report.

Special needs students in B.C. are not getting the support they need, their overburdened teachers are wracked with "disillusionment," and too little government funding gets much of the blame, a new report suggests.

Eleven months in the making, the extensively researched document says special education services for some of the province's most vulnerable kids are inadequate not only in School District #35 Langley, where the research was focused, but across the province.

The report says in some instances special needs students are left "wandering the halls" because resource room teachers are unavailable and appropriate courses are not open to them. At least one Langley district resource room teacher is carrying a caseload of 70 students this year.

The report also criticizes "the lack of appropriate support for classroom teachers who have students with special needs integrated into their classrooms."

'Low priority'

Special needs students make up about 10 per cent of all students in B.C., with gifted children accounting for two to three per cent more.

But the special needs of many more may not be known to the educational system. The panel of experts guiding the research expressed "concern" that under the province's current funding formula, students identified to have learning disabilities do not draw more funding for their schools, and so "the assessment of their needs has become a low priority."

Many parents are taking on "considerable burdens" spending their own money to have their children privately assessed for special learning needs because the wait times in public schools for assessments is up to two years, said the report.

A mental health worker told the panel that under-serving special needs students causes a chain reaction that harms communities, as many of the students drop out or are expelled, and then join gangs.

The report also says high school graduation levels for special needs students have held consistent at about 69 per cent, 10 points lower than the average for all students.

'Historical underfunding'

The three-person panel that produced the inquiry report included Nadene Guiltner, a recently retired public school teacher, Dr. Shirley McBride, formerly with the education departments at the University of Saskatchewan, SFU and UBC and the B.C. Ministry of Education, and Mike Suddaby, former superintendent of schools in Maple Ridge.

The panel blames "historical underfunding of special education in the province, which was exacerbated historically by imposed settlements that were not funded and from which the system has never recovered, despite some increases in education funding since that time.

"The primary victims of this shortfall have been non-enrolling personnel such as special education teachers, counselors and librarians."

Langley Teachers' Association second vice president Gail Chaddock-Costello told The Tyee that Langley teachers have seen more special needs students dropping out of school recently, and fewer graduating.

She also said the increased workload and lack of support is leading to teacher burnout and some experienced teachers leaving the system.

Burnout victim

Katy Phillips is one of those burnout survivors who sees herself as forced out of the classroom by inadequate funding and an "overwhelming" caseload.

Formerly a special education teacher in Langley, Phillips left the district last year and now teaches in Alberta.

"I saw bad impacts on students," she told The Tyee. "I saw so many of them frustrated, and I saw high school students starting to give up and fail because they didn't get the help they needed. As a teacher I ended up spending far too much time doing paper work and struggling with a caseload that swamped me. We have got to put kids first again."

Chaddock-Costello called the Langley report "an indictment of the provincial government and its education policies."

"The government stripped teacher contracts in 2002, taking out provisions we had bargained that gave up pay increases in trade for better conditions for our students. Since then we have seen teacher caseloads go up dramatically, with resource teachers now carrying caseloads of 30-45 special needs kids.

"Before contract stripping, no resource teacher had a caseload of more than 15 kids," she added. "I was a resource teacher in Langley before contract stripping, and with 15 kids on my caseload, I was a busy person."

"It's important for British Columbians to know that the percentage of our provincial economy going into education has gone down in the past years," she said. "Per-capita, B.C. is investing less in education than any other province."

Board of education opted out

The inquiry leading to Thursday's report was a joint project of the Langley Teachers' Association, the District Parent Advisory Council and CUPE Local 1260.

Video: Study Launch

Video highlights of the launch event for the Langley School District Special Ed Inquiry will soon be posted at Working TV.

The Langley district board and administrators declined to participate formally in the inquiry, although a few trustees attended public sessions.

When asked why the district board and administrators didn't participate in the inquiry, Craig Spence, the communications manager for Langley School District replied by e-mail saying:

"The composition of classes with regard to Special Needs students is governed by the School Act and Langley School District meets or exceeds the requirements of the School Act. There are procedures in place for consulting with individual teachers with regard to class composition. Langley School District also has processes and procedures in place for working with education partners with regard to matters like special services. The board of education did not feel it would be appropriate to participate in an inquiry that was established outside what is already in place for discussing such matters with its partners. The Langley Teachers' Association is welcome at any time to bring questions or comments forward to the board or senior staff at Langley School District."

'Shocked' at lack of resources

A mother of a Langley special needs student whose school was closed told the panel she "checked out many Langley schools to see which could best help my child and I was shocked to find they are all lacking in resources."

She wondered what administrators were doing with savings achieved by her child's school closing.

"Some of that money should go to providing services at the new school. Well, that is not the case; they are overburdened. When you add special needs students from both schools together you get many classes of 5 or more special needs kids," she said.

She added: "My question is how can a teacher teach in a classroom where there are six or seven [special needs] identified students -- on top of that, you add children with behaviour issues and slow learners. Sure you give the teacher one aid but she is told they won't start first thing in the morning and will not be there all day, nor will it be every day. So what are they trying to say -- my child is only disabled on Monday, Wednesday and Friday. On Tuesday and Thursday you don't need help? They're cured?"

Members of Langley's board of education would not be attending the official launch of the inquiry panel's report, Spence told The Tyee.

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  • zena

    4 years ago

    It's a beginning Tom

    Thanks for a great article, Tom, but there is just so much more to say. At the Vancouver high school of 1600 (in Campbell's riding) where I teach, we are now limited to 6 kids per year who can be tested for learning disabilities. So never mind the kids with learning disabilities that have already been identified. I can think of at least 8 kids off the top of my head who urgently need to be identified and who urgently need services if they are to successfully complete high school. To make matters worse, the changes to the funding formula that were implemented in October eliminates funding for students who receive any kind of teacher support, such as skills classes.
    As the new budget comes down in a few weeks parents can expect massive cuts in funding to their local schools. (Of course funding to private schools continues to rise.) Parents where are you? The situation is critical. I'm sure this situation violates the charter rights of these students for security of person, at the least. It's time someone launched a charter challenge to these positively unscrupulous policies of the ministry of education and this government.

  • Heather

    4 years ago

    Aid students with special needs

    This problem is not all about money. Too many people in this education arena seem to think that all we have to do is keep throwing money at education, specifically in this case, learning disabilities and poof, problem solved.

    Instead we need to go to the root of the problem and ask the real question, why there are so many special ed students. For the answer to that question we can simply look to the method by which we are teaching students to read. Whole language my friends is not getting the job done. As long as that stays as the preferred teaching method, this number of students will not change. Simply throwing more money at the industry of illiteracy won't help it. Being proactive and changing HOW we are teaching will.

    What's unscrupulous is that we now have a landscape littered with illiterate students that was entirely preventable. Phonics is what will ensure ALL students learn to read.

    Check here for the truth. You can't argue with evidence:
    http://www.theschoolsweneed.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/208#Post208

  • JIm

    4 years ago

    What is a special needs

    What is a special needs student?

  • G West

    4 years ago

    I dunno Heather

    I followed your link and read the information from Scotland. By the way, there’s a poster here called murdock who is also a big fan of John Taylor Gatto.

    Something tells me that we have a lot of issues that aren't going to be addressed by the rather simple expedient of switching everyone to phonics...in fact, I expect you'd find that most primary methodology blends the two methods (phonics and whole language) in the classroom.

    Whenever time and classroom resources permit, teachers will find the time to address individual student needs.

    The problem - and a good deal of it has to do with the diversity of the student body (both in terms of language and culture but also in terms of learning challenges and developmental differentials) is that the time and resources are frequently NOT available when and if they are needed.

    The first thing that needs to be done in British Columbia is to put all the public educational resources into the public system - anyone who wants a private education should pay ALL the freight - without any help from the taxpayer.

  • Frank

    4 years ago

    Phonics

    Phonics is the answer for SOME kids. I remember doing the Phonics thing when I was in elementary school and lots of kids had trouble with it.

    If Phonics hadn't produced as many "special needs" kids as whole language we'd still be using it.

    The problem is that all kids learn in different ways and have different strengths and weaknesses. Therefore different methods, such as Phonics, will work for some kids but leave others confused and needing help.

  • Fiat lux

    4 years ago

    For one thing, the money and

    For one thing, the money and effort wasted on ESL could be turned to better use.

    Out here, in the boondocks, there are no ESL programs and immigrant kids pick up the language, perfectly, within a few weeks and months.

    My wife had to go through this at the grade 2 level when her father was transferred to Romania, then later picking up German in Austria, at 16, and we have 3 children of our partners right here, who learned English without the slightest problem.

    At the same time, a good friend of ours brought up his wife's Spanish speaking, 15 year old nephew some years ago, who was living in North Van for 1 1/2 years by then and "passed" grade 9, who could hardly speak a single word of English.

    So much for ESL........

    When children and people have to learn something to survive, they'll learn pretty damn quick.

    The same with the metric system, now, theoretically in use in Canada for 30 years, but people still talk about inches, pounds and "what is -12 C in whiteman's terms?" Frezzing point at 32F is so much simpler.

    I had skilled European tradesmen in my shop in Vancouver, who just got off the planes.
    After they stopped laughing over the idiocy of an imperial measuring tape, where you can't even divide 12" by 5, they were working with it in 2 days, without the slightest problems.

    Ed Deak. Big Lake.

  • reality_check

    4 years ago

    Can we all run 100 m in 10 seconds?

    Assuming no steroid use of course ( ;) ), no matter how many drills, iron pumping, or phonics (for that matter) will help ALL of us achieve this goal! The same can be said about reading (and many other subjects)! Some kids cannot achieve our high standards easily and in short time! And, as far as English reading is concerned (decoding), it is an exceedingly difficult language to read and teach (and to learn) due to its inherent complex phonemic patterns (or poor sound to letter correspondance). Many suggests that we should simply the spelling rules (but many special interest groups are opposed to this for many reasons). http://cornucopierre.blogspot.com/search/label/education Essentially, if you are a visual learner (good visual memory), English reading will be mastered relatively fast. Phonics and drills will help students who are not visual learners improve their chances of reading, but so will extra practices (and other tricks). Of course, poor socio-economic factors (and genetics) make reading in English even more of a challenge. The same could be said about math and many other skills in other subjects. Let's face it. Not many of us could run a 100 m dash in 10 sec., no matter how hard we try! But, some of us could come closer given proper coaching or better shoes!

    On the general topic, more help needs to be given to the disadvantaged in our society, but do the elite with their private tutors and private schools care? They love widget makers as long as they are not it ... or them, rather!

    When given, some kids can really shine, as in this shy and depressed girl whose brain was thinking faster than her hand could write. When she was given a scribe, she would perform as well as others (and you should have seen how she blossomed after that). But, that takes extra money, folks! When people will be willing to give up that 2nd SUV, enabling them to be paying more tax to help those kids and when the elite will actually do something with those extra taxe revenues,... then and only then we might have a better society. In the mean ... time,...

    PS: Not all kids can be helped as dramatically as the above case.

  • reality_check

    4 years ago

    Errare humanum est

    Sorry about the many typos and omissions oi the preceding post. Please, use your intelligence to fill in the missing words. Sorry! Thanks!

  • James Burns

    4 years ago

    Double standards

    What spectacular ignorance, "throwing money at the problem". The notion that a simple shift in teaching methodology will solve the problems facing the education system demonstrates a truly profound blindness to what constitutes effective learning.

    The most effective aid to helping anyone learn is personalized attention from an experienced and professionally educated teacher. I've witnessed many people try to teach what they know, and the vast majority suck at it, because they simply have not learned and practiced the skills needed to bring others to an understanding of complex material.

    Our saving grace is the fact that humans are, for the most part, excellent learners. We learn best by mirroring the behavior of those more experienced. In fact, we have evolved to learn that way. Those with poor teaching skills help others learn best by simply doing the skill, and answering questions. But learning that way is often haphazard. Important information is unintentionally left out, and, unless the student spends enormous amounts of time with the teacher in what essentially amounts to a mentor - apprentice relationship, there will be significant holes in the student's knowledge.

    Having fewer students per teacher enables teachers to give students more personalized attention. Personalized attention adjusts to the specific needs of each student at that moment, and is the most effective learning aid whether the student is gifted, average or special needs. Moreover, because that personalized attention comes from a professionally trained and experienced teacher it is VASTLY more effective, because they know how to teach.

    People tend to vastly underestimate the skill teaching requires. But for comparison, how many cabinet makers would do a spectacular job if they had to turn out 30 or 40 cabinets every day? Do you think they'd do a vastly better job just working on one cabinet? What kind of difference in quality would there be between that one cabinet carefully labored on, and one of the rapidly built 30? So why is it that people are so hard on teachers who handle classes of 30 to 40 students?

  • NDN_Coach

    4 years ago

    Money should go into classrooms, not board offices

    I have been working for a school district for many years now and a disturbing trend I see, is that when school districts close schools, they often eliminate teaching and support positions while shuffling administrative positions. It defies logic and common sense to do this as many of the admin positions pay a great deal more.

    The end result is there is less money for the kids and they are the ones who ultimately suffer, along with teachers who burnout.

  • reality_check

    4 years ago

    More money = more teachers

    James,

    I agree with most of what you stated!

    By more money, I think people refer putting more money into the system to offer the personalized teaching by professionally trained you are referring to. Agree?

    I also think that people should think of teachers as CEOs, with 20 to 35 employees! How much do average CEOs make?

    PS: For all the teachers'detractors out there, please note that even though teachers have a total of 3 months (UNPAID) holidays, most teachers do work 60 hours a week with an extra 6 weekends for report cards. This amounts to more than 40 hours a week with no holidays!

  • Heather

    4 years ago

    Literacy and wasting money

    I completely agree with you NDN_Coach. Administration is over the top regarding what their paid. That's why I love the concept of Charter schools. The money by passes the board office and goes directly to the school itself. The school has signed a contract or charter with the Ministry of Ed stating what they will achieve in an agreed on amount of time. If they don't achieve that goal, they are closed. If they do acheive their goal, they get a renewal and another contract, or charter. Accountability, bang for your buck, no paying unnecessary administration fees and individual schools do their own thing without interference. It's perfect.
    Unions hate this because it crushes their current monopoly.

    Regarding phonics producing special needs. Nope. Look at that link I posted. ALL their students were reading at a grade 8 reading level. ALL of them. THis was a lower socio-economic area. All myths explode. A true phonics method will immediately expose what children will need extra help, like dyslexic students. That amounts to no more than 2-3%. Phonics didn't ever produce special needs. Whole language was developed in answer to stupid basil text books, remember Dick and Jane? That was Whole language's precursor called look and say. That was how it was taught in the 60s. We haven't seen true phonics teaching for a very long time. The trouble is, special needs as it exists today has produced an industry that pays a lot of people a lot of money. Pyschologists, TAs, Learning Assistance, Resource teachers.... the list goes on and on. These people are gamefully employed by the fact that many children don't learn by memorizing or guessing at words, there's nothing wrong with them except for the fact that no one ever showed them spelling rules syllabication rules etc. So, that's why we have these kinds of problems and studies like the above that cry out for more money. There will never be enough money for them.

  • SharingIsGood

    4 years ago

    Jim asks:

    "What is a special needs student?"

    This link allows you to find the various general categories; but it cannot begin to describe all of the sub-categories/nuances that must be accounted for on Individual Education Plans (IEPs). Specialized training is often required of staff to fulfill the needs of those students. These students are integrated as much as possible into regular classrooms.

    http://www.bced.gov.bc.ca/specialed/ppandg/toc.htm

  • happy

    4 years ago

    Give us a break

    "PS: For all the teachers'detractors out there, please note that even though teachers have a total of 3 months (UNPAID) holidays, most teachers do work 60 hours a week with an extra 6 weekends for report cards. This amounts to more than 40 hours a week with no holidays"

    They get paid a years salary. It all works out in the end. If they believe they are working for no pay there is something called the Canada Labour Code. End of story

  • realisticman

    4 years ago

    An epidemic of non-learners

    Quote:
    She added: "My question is how can a teacher teach in a classroom where there are six or seven [special needs] identified students -- on top of that, you add children with behaviour issues and slow learners. ...".

    This special-needs creating and mollycoddling has to stop! These children are manufactured by a system that is run by the wrong people. No wonder companies have to import workers because the capabilities of graduates of the BC state education system is too often insufficient for present technological knowledge requirements in all industries. We have known for some time that writing has gone out of style. Now we see that reading is at risk!

    Both in this family were educated in schools that were in less than wealthy areas and there were no special-needs children. None. This is a novel concept. In one case one was plonked into a school without the knowledge of one word of the new language. This didn't stop them graduating from that high-school and then finding work themselves to paying for their university education (without family help), paying off their student loan and obtaining a degree.

    Something is very wrong and it's not money. Children are suffocating.

    Heather is right.

  • G West

    4 years ago

    realisticman

    You sound like a man with no children!

  • reality_check

    4 years ago

    phonics & help

    I agree that phonics is a huge help in helping many kids to spell better and to read better. Some kids might not be able to remember as quickly as we would want them the spelling rules, but these help (even though some teachers/methods go a bit crazy with wanting kids to know all of them!) Reading and helping children choosing appropriate books (cartoon or more advanced) need to be used alongside phonics.

    Realisticman, can everyone run a 100 m dash in 10 sec.? Are all of those people slackers, lazy? In other words, we are not all born equal. Some of us can learn the way it is taught, others need other means and other conditons for that to occur. Do you agree? If not, why not?

  • asher

    4 years ago

    give it a rest

    Heather, this is a story about special needs kids and funding - not pedagogy polemics. Whole language is mostly corporate backed bs, but I don't think this is the issue at hand.

    One may find that diagnosis of ESL students with dyslexia to be rather poor as well. How many are trained to recognize dyslexia of a native Japanese speaker? or Taiwanese/Fujianese speakers? If a child comes from the Shanghai area would the counsellors even know that she probably does not speak Mandarin as her first language? That it would be inappropriate to diagnosis her with Mandarin tests?

    Some experts, such as Paradis of McGill University, declare that dyslexia is simply not as common amongst Japanese as amongst native English speaking Canadians. But he couldn't read Japanese and couldn't carry out the studies himself. It was just Cold War propaganda. But the Japanese Ministry of Education itself says that never mind kids not learning English - kids are graduating who cannot read Japanese. But school counsellors there do not even check for dyslexia.

    It is important that there be funding to help kids with special needs. I mean, it would at least make it possible for they themselves to acquire a business license and legally run a love hotel at Granville and Broadway.

  • reality_check

    4 years ago

    phonics & help

    I agree that phonics is a huge help in helping many kids to spell better and to read better. Some kids might not be able to remember as quickly as we would want them the spelling rules, but these help (even though some teachers/methods go a bit crazy with wanting kids to know all of them!) Reading and helping children choosing appropriate books (cartoon or more advanced) need to be used alongside phonics.

    Realisticman, can everyone run a 100 m dash in 10 sec.? Are all of those people slackers, lazy? In other words, we are not all born equal. Some of us can learn the way it is taught, others need other means and other conditons for that to occur. Do you agree? If not, why not?

    There are different ways to learn. Some of us respond to music: http://cornucopierre.blogspot.com/2007/11/range-of-disorders-tamed-by-beat-new.html#links

  • James Burns

    4 years ago

    I think someone is confused...

    Heather, where in your links does it say there were no special needs students? Where in your links does it say synthetic phonics eliminated special needs?

    Quote:
    A true phonics method will immediately expose what children will need extra help, like dyslexic students.

    Oh, so there ARE special needs students who need extra help. But you then go on to say again that special needs don't really exist, and that designating students as special needs is just a way for greedy teachers, administrators and psychologists to milk the system. It sounds to me like you're remarkably confused.

    A teaching methodology is not a panacea. It won't cure neurological problems, blindness, deafness, or behavioral dysfunction due to abuse and neglect. Why all this promotion of synthetic phonics? Do you have some financial interest in the methodology?

    As for charter schools, allowing them will simply promote fly-by-night operations that milk the system for a quick buck. They will maximize profit by spending as little on the students as possible. Then they will shut when parents start to realize they've been tricked, while the con artists scamper off with the funds, protected by a bank of lawyers, P3 contracts, and government contacts. Either that, or their contracts will guarantee them a profit, and they will end up costing vastly more than our public schools, while delivering far less. That is the reality of P3.

  • RickW

    4 years ago

    R/Man

    Quote:
    This special-needs creating and mollycoddling has to stop! These children are manufactured by a system that is run by the wrong people.

    You got that right! The medicine business had got to start promoting prevention, so that the mothers and fathers of these children are as healthy as possible when they conceive and carry their children to term!

    Damn those doctors anyhow!!

  • Name

    4 years ago

    Since when does phonics cure autism?

    Boy, it took Heather & co all of 2 hours to spin a report documenting hard evidence of underfunding of special education as an excuse for diatribes hawking every pet ideology from charter schools to phonics to lets just stick it to those immigrants.

    It's about simple math, Heather, not literacy. You've missed the point spectacularly.

    Incidence rates of neurological disorders like autism have skyrocketed - no one yet knows why. Advances in health mean we're also saving more other kids with various degrees of neurological damage who would not have survived even a generation ago.

    Study after study have showed that natural incidence rates of special needs in the K-12 population the world over are at least 10% (no matter how you teach). Langley claims its special needs ratio is less than 10%. SO if anything, the lack of phonics must have mysteriously cured a whole bunch of kids who should be identified with learning disabilities.

    More simple math: When the Provincial government provides districts with $16,000 for each child with autism and that doesn't even cover half the cost of an aide, far less services from a special education teacher, therapists, etc., it's a matter of simple math - schools can't afford to provide the services needed.

    Phonics ain't about to cure my child's autism. And if Heather had bothered to read the report, she would have grasped that the shift to school-based management, as idealized in her utopian charter school model, is exactly part of the problem. It's simply not cost effective to try to provide all the specialized expertise required to serve complex kids with complex needs at each school.

    These kids cost more money to educate - a lot more. And it costs a hell of a lot more to support them over a lifetime if we fail to give them the means to function as successful contributing citizens in adulthood. Again, all the math on that is clear and has been indisputably documented.

    So forget the phonics. Try actually reading the report and try to remember the basic math you learned back in elementary school.

  • Name

    4 years ago

    ...Jeez, now it's the parents' fault for having 'em!

    Right, RickW,

    Autism, Down Syndrome, Cerebral Palsy, dyslexia and developmental disability are all the fault of those reckless mothers who damaged their fetuses in utero through unhealthy living.

    That's why incidence rates have remained stable or risen over every demographic over a century when human health and nutrition have improved dramatically? Why malnourished Third World mothers and others who drink, smoke and live off junk food can have perfectly health babies while those who do everything by the book produce babies with the whole gamut of congenital abnormalities?

    That's about the cruellest thing I've read yet about the many mothers I know who sacrifice their whole lives and perform superhuman feats to give these precious children a chance in life against all the odds.

    EDITED FOR PERSONAL INSULTS -- TYEE MODERATOR

  • G West

    4 years ago

    Name

    I think RickW was being satirical - my guess, in this slap-down, he's likely on your side.

    As for Heather and her remarks, I'm sure she's sincere but I think she misapprehends both the Fraser Institute and the value of Charter Schools.

    This, about the experience in the States, is worthwhile:
    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C05E3D61F3AF936A35757C0A9649C8B63

    And I think this study, from Stanford, is even more persuasive about why Charter Schools aren't likely worth the bother - or the costs.

    http://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/pdf/10.1162/edfp.2006.1.1.151?cookieSet=1

  • RickW

    4 years ago

    name

    Check into what PCB's, heavy metals, et al can do to the reproductive system, simply by not allowing the body to assimilate required nutrients:
    http://www.birthdefects.org/Research/immterat.htm
    http://www.alternative-doctor.com/anti-ageing/heavy_metal.html
    http://www.faqs.org/health/topics/47/Mineral-deficiency.html
    http://www.kingmaker.net/deaddoctorssum2.htm
    http://www.newstarget.com/001419.html
    http://www.fluoridealert.org/downs-syndrome.htm

    etc., etc..........

    Now why would you call me "jerk", when all I said was that most people are ignorant of the nutritional values of the foods they eat, and that the doctor business is a very long way from informing them with any kind of efficacy? Did I call down the mothers and fathers? No, I did not!

    http://www.claudettewadsworth.com.au/article_natural_fertility.htm

    Sperm can take up to 116 days to develop and mature, during which time they are vulnerable to damage. Likewise the egg takes approximately 100 days to mature before ovulation.
    Poor nutrition, tobacco, drugs, alcohol, environmental pollution, lack of exercise, stress, oral contraceptives, genito-urinary infections, and other infections eg Candida, allergies, child bearing at an older age and stress are all important factors which may be harmful to sperm, eggs, health of the male and female reproductive organs, general health of both parents, and in turn the health of the baby.
    Therefore 4 months of healthy living before conception will improve the quality of sperm, egg and pregnancy. Most couples are keen to conceive as quickly as possible. However, preconception care ensures all underlying causes are dealt with prior to conception attempts rather then seeking reasons after problems have occurred.

  • Mr. Gimpy

    4 years ago

    Read the report

    It seems very few commentators actually read the report.

    Actually considering information about the learning conditions children around the province exprerience daily I suppose is far less interesting than ideological fencing - a swoop here, a dash there, for a brief moment touché.

    Read what parents are telling us. Consider the conclusions a former high ranking government official and superintendent made based on submissions, data gathering and analysis.

    Think about what it would be like for your child.

    Then let us know what you think.

  • zena

    4 years ago

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  • Name

    4 years ago

    Changing my diet now ain't going to cure it either!

    RickW

    Changing my diet or my spouse's diet now is not going to cure our son's autism either. There is nothing that we can do now about what parents did not know when they conceived 10 - 25 years ago.

    The kids are here, they are what they are and they need to be educated to stand a chance in life. And the report shows more hard evidence of why we're failing to do that.

    Why do people have such a hard time facing that and agreeing that it's reasonable to do something about it - instead chasing tangents and red herrings to avoid facing the harsh reality that we as a society are failing our most vulnerable children by nickle & diming a public education system that was intended to create a level playing field for all?

  • RickW

    4 years ago

    Name

    Can't do much about what happened years and decades ago, I agree, but for the future......?

    In the meantime, we have to do what we have to do to so the kids & adults can function comfortably in society.

    But it was R/Man who insisted that "special needs" is a sham, and I wanted to set the record straight on that.

  • Heather

    4 years ago

    Quote:Heather, where in your

    Quote:
    Heather, where in your links does it say there were no special needs students? Where in your links does it say synthetic phonics eliminated special needs?

    It doesn't say that. But where are they? Statistically, we know there must be some, but the truth of the matter is that when you use a scientifically proven method that works, you get early intervention. You help them early and they succeed, we save money and we dont' end up with a bottomless pit of students who haven't been taught to read. I deeply resent my hard earned tax dollars being spent on something that is obviously not working. The first sign of insanity is doing the same thing over and over believing that you'll get different results.

    For an excellent read regarding what has happened as a result of our "special needs" kids, read The Knowledge Deficit but E.D. Hirsch. http://www.theschoolsweneed.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/356#Post356

    Regarding Charter schools: bad news stories about Charters are good news because they'll get shut down for failing to fulfill their contract (unlike here). There are so many Charter schools in Alberta (and we all know how they soundly thrash the rest of the province results wise), U.S. U.K. and New Zealand. They are sucessful.

    And thanks for calling me a troll Zena [OFFENSIVE COMMENT EDITED. -MODERATOR.].

  • G West

    4 years ago

    Charter schools

    That's not the result the studies I've read reflect Heather.

    Charter schools work well in some environments - usually religious schools where all the students who go there have common characteristics.

    Charter schools in BC - like separate schools now - simply draw funds away from the public system. All they really do is exacerbate problems that are already complex and difficult to address.

    People who really CARE about the outcomes of our schools shouldn't try to subvert the system by pretending that the only thing that matters is the results their own kids obtain.

    We build strong communities, strong schools and strong citizens by recognizing what brings us together...too many people, especially in relatively monolithic and heterogeneous communities, just have no idea what goes on in classrooms these days.

    I know elementary teachers with three or four severely handicapped students in a class of 28 - frequently with no more than a single aide in the classroom - and high school PE teachers in similar situations with no aide help at all.

    As someone else pointed out about in the comments, I think a number of people who purport to be experts would do well to go back and read the Langley report (perhaps for the first time):

    http://bctf.ca/uploadedFiles/Issues/Inclusive_education/LangleySpecialEdInquiry/report.pdf

  • reality_check

    4 years ago

    G West and all

    I agree with you and the report.

    It seems that some people in the Langley school district (and higher up in the chain of command: ministry) are not using common sense or are sabotaging the lives of these kids. Why, for instance, assessments made in other districts are not accepted? If I read this well, this is the biggest joke that I have ever read in many years, except that it is not funny at all! There seems to be a concerted effort to prevent students with special needs from receiving the services they need and deserve to succeed. Of course, go explain that to the Westerners who succeeded with millions in their back pockets, lists of dad's friends, and special tutors and school for their ... special needs!

  • Bailey

    4 years ago

    Politically inconvenient

    I submit that these children, all the disabled really, are a political embarrassment to a philosophy that wishes to claim that personal choices are the reason for all inequity.

    'If they were only more like me', the argument goes, 'they would be as rich as me too. Their poor choices made them poor, or homeless, or disabled or whatever. Therefore when the rich get richer and the poor stay always with us, it's their own fault, and don't ask ME for any money.'

    But these people give that argument the absolute lie. When somebody is born disabled, into perfectly ordinary families, well... it seems to undermine the basic premise Mrs. Thatcher was so eloquent about. That there is no such thing as society. So society should not support anybody ever. In any way, whatever that makes us. We must never ask the rich for money.

    It makes them cranky, and it makes them cruel. And when the rich feel cruel, they have the power to make somebody hurt.

  • Heather

    4 years ago

    G West

    Then G West, if you've only heard bad stories then you haven't read much about Charter schools. There is so much data on the successes of Charters we could fill a ship. Go to this link for starters: http://www.edreform.com/index.cfm?fuseAction=pressRelease&newsYear=2002&pSectionID=&cSectionID=55

    A quote:

    Quote:
    CER Press Release, Washington, D.C., October 15, 2002
    Less than 7 percent of charter schools have shut down to date, compared to federal findings that 11 percent of traditional district schools are failing. Accountability is the key, finds CER's report Charter School Closures: The Opportunity for Accountability.

    That's a comprehensive site with oodles of info on Charters. IT's the way of the future because these schools wrestle power, control and monopoly away from the Teacher's union. I note you quote a BCTF article. Interesting that they are your source. Try going outside the box for more information.

    In the meantime, if you really want to understand how we got to the place where we are now, read John Taylor Gatto's piece called The Public School Nightmare. It's at my site if you want to access it easily there. http://www.theschoolsweneed.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/351#Post351

    Warning, it may leave you speechless.

    Later folks......

  • Name

    4 years ago

    Shoulda seen that coming - now it's the union's fault...

    This comment thread would be hilarious if it wasn't so damned sad!

    Pastor Heather from the Church of Latter Day Charter Schools is determined to use this report to win at least one convert, never mind that her sermons are all directly contradicted by the facts & findings of the report itself.

    Watch as she flits from one tired mantra to another -- it's all the fault of pedagogy, it's all the fault of the unions -- whatever the cause du jour, salvation lies in charter schools!

    If the evil BCTF was so all-powerful and in dire need of your knee-capping, why are their members so abjectly demoralized by a system that is failing them and their students, Heather? Why are they the ones who initiated the study out of desperation in the first place? Why can't we even find qualified teachers willing to take on these roles any longer?

    Ideologues aside, there has been no objective data showing that outcomes in charter schools are consistently better or worse than other models, for reasons solely related to the model itself, when you separate out the dozens of other confounding factors at play.

    The idea that charter schools will solve it all is almost as dumb as Shirley Bond's suggestion last year that the answer would be to ship them all back to provincial "model" schools.

  • G West

    4 years ago

    It didn't Heather

    And I take it you haven't heard about the Charter school disasters in Texas and Arizona either. You might want to go back and look at what I actually wrote about why charter schools work when they do succeed.

    It's certainly NOT because they're good at addressing the kind of classroom diversity and student problems that we have in most schools in urban British Columbia.

    I'm sure they're very popular amoung fundamentalist Christian groups in the lower Fraser Valley though.

  • realisticman

    4 years ago

    without religious affiliation

    Selective quotes from Wiki:

    As originally conceived, the ideal model of a charter school as a legally and financially autonomous public school (without tuition, religious affiliation, or selective student admissions) that would operate much like a private business – free from many state laws and district regulations, and accountable more for student outcomes rather than for processes or inputs. Charter schools tended to be somewhat more racially diverse.
    Studies have shown that charter schools are rarely closed for poor academic performance.

    Seems like it's more about choice and competition; and more diverse.

  • G West

    4 years ago

    R/man

    Perhaps this editorial from the New York Times would be a little more valuable than WIKI. Please note the bolded sentence near the end of the piece

    May 10, 2006
    Editorial
    Reining in Charter Schools

    The charter school movement began with the tantalizing promise that independently operated schools would outperform their traditional counterparts — if they could only be exempted from state regulations while receiving public money. It hasn't quite worked out that way. With charter laws now on the books in about 40 states and thousands of schools up and running, the problem has turned out to be too little state oversight, not too much.

    Even states with disastrously low-performing charter systems can point to a handful of outstanding schools. But several studies have shown that on the whole, charter schools perform no better than other public schools. Beyond that, some states have opened so many charter programs so quickly that they can barely count them, let alone monitor student performance. Where charters have clearly failed, the states often lack the political will — or even a process — for closing them down.

    The oversight issue has become crucial since the passage of the No Child Left Behind Act, which requires students in charter schools to meet the same standards as students in traditional schools. But getting a handle on the problem is going to be difficult for states like Michigan, which has become a textbook example of how sloppily administered charter programs can harm students and undermine faith in both the chartering process and public education in general.

    Michigan quickly opened more than 200 schools under one of most liberal charter laws, and the program has been riddled with problems from the start. A multistate study by the Evaluation Center, a well-known research group at Western Michigan University, describes charter schools in Michigan, Ohio and some other states as actually having a negative impact on student achievement.

    (conclusion follows)

  • G West

    4 years ago

    The study also finds that

    The study also finds that states with charter programs dominated by for-profit education companies have poorer results for those schools in terms of performance and accountability.

    This spells bad news for Michigan, where three-quarters of the charter schools are run by commercial companies, which have been criticized for turning away disadvantaged and disabled students and for failing to release test data that would allow education officials to check performance. The Legislature, which appears to be losing faith in the whole idea, refused to raise the cap on the number of charters. But it also declined to provide the money that would have allowed the State Education Department to do better monitoring of the charter schools that already exist.

    The Michigan and Ohio cases will probably show that it is much more difficult to improve failing charter schools than to put them together properly in the first place. That fact has clearly registered on states like Connecticut and Delaware, which have wisely taken a cautious approach to chartering schools outside the usual public system.

    Promising charter systems are few. But those that exist have some things in common: The states issue charters only after a rigorous screening process. They provide technical assistance to the schools, especially on procurement matters. And they provide sophisticated oversight — with regular and systematic data collection — to make sure that the schools are actually working.

    So far, the national experience with charter schools shows that they are not a magical solution to the achievement problem. The only way to improve public schooling is to provide well-trained teachers and orderly schools, and to monitor them to make sure that the students are actually learning. To salvage the charter movement, the states will need to abandon the strategy, now discredited, that consists largely of giving public money to what are basically private schools and then looking the other way.

    Why would we, in Canada, even consider adopting such a negative and community-destroying, not to say costly and wasteful system?

    If the people of the Fraser Valley Bible Belt want their own schools; fine - but let themm and not the taxpayer - cover ALL the costs.

    The public school system needs a shot in the arm - not a bullet to the head.

    (Remarks in itallics are mine)

  • James Burns

    4 years ago

    Misrepresentations

    Heather you are citing information from a charter school advocacy group. What's more, you are misrepresenting information about charter schools, particularly in the case of Alberta.

    Quote:
    There are so many Charter schools in Alberta (and we all know how they soundly thrash the rest of the province results wise), U.S. U.K. and New Zealand. They are successful.

    Alberta has about 10 charter schools, but over 50 public school boards. At least one of those school boards has over 200 schools. Has there been a comparison of the 10 best public schools to the 10 charters, or do they average the results?

    Why also haven't you brought up the fact that charter schools in Alberta don't have to accept special needs students? Don't you think this could skew the results they get?

    Why don't you mention that charter schools get to pick and choose the students they accept, enabling them to enroll only the best and brightest students? Why don't you mention the fact that charter schools are allowed to restrict class size, while school boards are required to provide for the education of all children in their jurisdiction?

    Frankly, I find your misrepresentation of the facts [EDITED. -MODERATOR.]. Mindless, blind advocacy based solidly on purely selfish motives, hiding behind the notion of "performance". Charters are a movement by well off groups of parent advocates who want to create an ideal education environment for THEIR children using public funds. And they're perfectly willing to do it on the backs of special needs. Children with the greatest learning challenges are segregated away from THEIR children, so as not to pollute their learning, or dilute the funding they receive, or bring down average test scores. They then can claim so-called superior pedagogy, the market, and choice has resulted in better performance, when it is clearly pre-selection of students that is the most significant factor.

  • Heather

    4 years ago

    School Choice

    Please, before you do the happy dance concering Charter schools you need to know that the New York Times is so far left that it is the very definition of the latin for left being "sinister." Seriously. This is the same paper that ran a front page with pictures of war vets stating that statistically/relatively, teh majority of criminals are Iraq vets. Nice.

    I'm not going to dignify your remarks about the Fraser Valley bible belt schools. I don't even know how or why you suddenly became so angry about them.

    Anyway, I just read a really interesting article this morning by Sol Stern. The article is called School Choice isn't Enough. It discusses the diffuculty with some of the Charter schools but also discusses vouchers at some length and how they help poor minority students.

    But now, to bring us back around full circle and to what I originally said about teaching phonics, the author quotes Diane Ravitch and E.D. Hirsch, both heavy hitters and well respected in the academic world regarding their concerns about instructional methods. School choice, via Charters, vouchers etc won't completely solve the problem regarding poor academic performance unless they revamp and improve instruction methods, via teaching teachers to teach phonics.

    Quote:
    While the arguments about school choice and markets swirled during the past 15 years, both Ravitch and Hirsch wrote landmark books (Left Back and The Schools We Need and Why We Don’t Have Them, respectively) on how the nation’s education schools have built an “impregnable fortress” (Hirsch’s words) of wrong ideas and ineffective classroom practices that teachers then carry into America’s schools, almost guaranteeing failure, especially for poor minority children. Hirsch’s book didn’t just argue this; it proved it conclusively, to my mind, offering an extraordinary tour d’horizon of all the evidence about instructional methods that cognitive neuroscience had discovered.

    Please read this entire article. It's well worth your time.

    http://city-journal.org/2008/18_1_instructional_reform.html

  • G West

    4 years ago

    Are you talking about this article?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/13/us/13vets.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=Iraq+War+Vets+involved+in+crimes&oref=slogin

    There's nothing either left or right wing about it.

    Charter schools are NOT part of the solution. You might want to spend some time on what's happened in New Orleans since Katrina and what a mess the charter program has made of things there.

    Get rid of public finds for private schools and put all our public resources back where they belong.

    Now.

    Neither phonics nor vouchers will solve what's wrong with our schools and give your kids the education you say they're not getting now.

    Last word from me - I'm not interested in a discussion with someone who is more interested in criticizing who says something than contending with 'what' they have to say and the evidence they marshal for their case.

  • realisticman

    4 years ago

    XLNT References

    Thank you, Heather, for many interesting comments and references.

    We frequently hear that the BCTF and its members are demoralized or depressed and a healthy debate regarding education in general is certainly needed.

    Pity that some people are so stuck in their ways that they close themselves to any changes, even some who claim to be progressives, throwing out canards as they increasingly entrench themselves.

  • James Burns

    4 years ago

    Pity the fools

    Pity that some people are so ideologically driven that they are willing to pretend market solutions will work where they have repeatedly proven not to.

    Pity that some people are so selfish and self-centered they are willing to sacrifice the good of other children, and of the community as a whole in order to spend as little as possible on education while ensuring their children get the lion's share of public funds.

    Pity that some people believe in the pipe dream panacea of simplistic pedagogical methodology, while unwilling to look at the actual contextual details of a given community and its educational needs and challenges.

    Pity that some people can't be bothered to simply take the time to find out what works for communities.

  • Geoff

    4 years ago

    Administrator

    Moving on...

    Seeing that we're now getting into the territory of personal snipes and insults, perhaps it's time to move on from the charter school/public school debate? I think both sides have made their case.
  • zalm

    4 years ago

    A study of two...

    It'll be interesting to see how charter schools work out in my own family. My wife's Bible-thumping sister has twins, one of whom has relatively profound needs - hearing deficit, attention deficit, some brain damage... Yet they have both been enrolled in the same charter school for their second year now. I'm just watching.

    The healthy one (from birth) is exceedingly bright, and exceedingly lazy - truly his father's son. The special-needs one has made amazing strides since age three, but still has obvious barriers to normal learning situations.

    Yet neither can read more than a few words. Counting is difficult for both. The bright twin is not appreciably ahead of the other one in any academic respect. The bright one displays narcissistic characteristics like his father, while the other twin is really quite selfless.

    Family dynamics are difficult right now, with dad up on criminal charges and little money in the household. Which is why I get to spend quite a bit of time with the twins when we babysit.

    I'm not coming down on one side or the other - I appreciate that a charter school took a chance on the twins, but I note that he IS their only special needs student in that class. The results for both are unpromising in light of the talents of the parents. I apprehend a slight bias in myself against charter schools because the three I am familiar with appear to reject most pedagogical theory in favour of a solitary practice which tends to require one size to fit all. Yet, if the twins are successful...BOTH of them.... then I'll reevaluate this.

  • SharingIsGood

    4 years ago

    7 years ago

    Seven years ago, British Columbia's education system was the model that other provinces, states and countries were attempting to emmulate. This is no longer the case. Services to students have been declining since the Campbell government came into power. The education roundtable is a joke. It is just another means by which this government shirks its responsibilities. Making decisions appear as though they have been thoroughly discussed and decided upon through roundtable discusion is another means by which Campbell and his crew delays/avoids meeting the real needs of children.

    Even if he cared about our province's children, I believe that Campbell's understanding of the public school system has come primarily from his wife, a Squamish/West Van principal. West Van demographics are out of touch with the demographics of the rest of the province.

    Basic hygiene and nutrition needs are not met by a good number of hardworking families in many districts. The number of these families continues to rise (outside of West Van)! Children cannot learn well when they go to sleep hungry and cold. They do not learn well when they are shunned by their peers for coming to school in smelly, soiled clothing and dirty hair.

    During a period when the wealthy have gotten richer at a pace like never before, our government has been shortchanging its workers' children. It has been shortchanging middle and low income earners: their children are being placed in continually worsening learning environments. The wealthy can always buy whatever education they want, one way or another - as long as they don't have to rub elbos with the ever-increasing great unwashed.

  • sammy

    4 years ago

    Cut the Funding, Cut the Kids

    When the government cuts the funding for special needs, they cut the kids, who can't succeed without support.
    I am a parent of 3 children with special needs - gifted children who also have learning disabilities. My youngest graduated last year, and at the end of the day, I am just thankful that they survived the public school system.
    It is just ignorant to suggest that there are no learning disabilities, just misguided teachers, lazy kids and bad parents. Learning disabilities are neurologically based, and cannot be eliminated by hard work and positive thinking.
    One very articulate and intelligent student said, "If someone said to a kid in a wheelchair, you aren't trying hard enough, go run around the field with the rest of the class, everyone would say that was mean. But when people say something like that to kids with learning disabilities, no one thinks it's mean." It's the curse of the invisible disability. People can learn to work around learning disabilities - they can't 'learn' not to have them, and more than the child in the wheelchair can learn to walk.
    My children had the benefit of parents who were prepared to advocate for them and who found a way to pay for private psycho-educational testing and tutoring. My heart breaks for the children whose parents don't have the knowledge, time, energy and money to make sure their children have some of the help that the schools are not providing - the students who go through school, or drop out, believing that they are lazy and stupid, because that is what they are told in their struggles - instead of discovering that they can learn as well or better than others, if given the necessary support.

  • zena

    4 years ago

    Editor

    You edited my post regarding heather being a troll. This was meant as a tongue-in-cheek jest and not an insult. According to the definition of "troll" that I've heard, a troll is someone who disingenuously attempts to divert the focus of a thread onto his/her own agenda, thereby thwarting real dialogue by pushing an agenda.
    If you review all the posts made by heather and observe how she focuses on issues completely unrelated to the article, then carefully review her link to her blog, you will readily see that trollis an accurate observation. I only hoped that my early posting of this comment would alert others not to engage with this person or give her a platform to push her agenda and obscure the very relevant points in the article. You will notice that I did not engage further in this thread because of heather's hijacking--hijacking that you yourself then attempted to stop! I am insulted that you decided my post was insulting when clearly the tone was not nasty. Why did you not remove heather's subsequent post which is undoubtedly an insult? Are you allowing heather to call the editorial shots? Seriously, review the flow of posts, be objective and analytical, and you will notice that, unfortunately, I am correct. I hope you are not insulted, because that is not my intention.

  • Heather

    4 years ago

    Re: Editor

    Zena you have no idea who I am or where I've come from. Your attemps to discredit everything I've said by calling me a "troll" or disingenuous are outrageous.

    Here's the truth: I have a son who is dyslexic. He is now an adult, and is illiterate. His needs were not met in public school, nor do I believe they would have been met in a Fraser Valley Bible belt private school. He should have gone to Fraser Academy or James Cameron or Kenneth Gordon. We could not afford for him to attend these schools that specialize in teaching dyslexic students. A voucher would have been nice. Choice.

    I know what special ed entails having lived it for 13 years of his schooling. I fought long and hard for him. I advocated for him, I ran for school trustee all in an attempt to help fix the system so that other families might be spared the long suffering my son and our entire family went through. I went to the UK and brought back early intervention software that assess kindergarten student's cognitive profile and determines which students will be at risk for dyslexia. Two school districts bought it. One actually used it, the other let it sit and collect dust. What it actually assessed was which students would NOT learn by whole language. I became an Orton Gillingham tutor to try to help my son and other students like him.

    Do I have an agenda? You bet I do. I want to help people realize that we need to fix this system from the bottom up. We need to look at the ROOT of the problem and stop putting Band-Aids all over it. Students who are not taught to read properly from the get go are being set up for failure and a whole range of "special ed." Obviously we need to address the students in the system now that need to be deprogrammed, and fixed, but if we don't address the problem where it starts we're just shooting blanks and throwing our money away.

    This is why I brought the school district in Scotland to your attention. In Dunbartonshire they eliminated illiteracy. They did it!

    So Zena, thanks for the opportunity to set the record straight. And also thank you to the long suffering moderator.

  • Wordspinner

    4 years ago

    Exploitation of students with special needs

    All students have special needs, and this report reinforces the miserable job the Campbell government has done supporting education in general and special needs students specifically.

    Try to find a parent who can say, "I'm so happy to be sending my child to school X. I know they get the best possible education and attention." Or "The taxes I pay are clearly adequate for all the educational needs my child has."

    Similarly, find a student who can say, "I'm getting thebest possible education at my school. My teachers have time to attend to my individual needs and concerns and have tailored the educational program to maximize my dreams and aspirations."

    Unfortunately, the number of students and parents that are unable to make these kind of statements about school quality have increased since Campbell took office. Certainly, "throwing money" at the problem isn't a cure, but how many people realize how small the increases in funding have been over the years compared to the needs of today's students?

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