I as well have attended to all candidate meetings in North Van Seymour and North Van Lonsdale. Both Green candidates Terry Long and John Sharpe are almost as embarrassing to the party as the local Liberals are to theirs. Both have to read from the Green book stammering and stumbling to understand and convey Carr's manifesto pretending they actually know what there talking about. Dan Jarvis and Katherine Whitred must really feel their on a level playing field with this sort of opponent. It's only a injustice that all the North Shore could not see how inept their present mla's are in North Vancouver. The NDP in both these ridings should win in a landslide if were to come down to any sort of intellegence test. Both Whitred and Jarvis are barely breathing. Now we know why neither can hold any sort of ministry portfolio. The cat would be out of the bag then.Dump the green their useless, with this we will dump the Liars

Why didn't the NDP deal with this Green thing years ago ? Did they really think a socialist message would fly ? Have they not seen the shift to the right as personified by the 2004 US election where George Bush won inspite of The New York Times headlining Abo Grabe on the front page their newspaper for 60 straight days during the end of the election period. This didn't work. The average North American is way more Conservative than the Liberals would like to admit. It's time the NDP adopted the some different tactics if they ever hope to be in power again.

Why didn't the NDP deal with this Green thing years ago ? Did they really think a socialist message would fly ?

Not sure I get you here, Ron. The NDP are, I believe, under CJ trying a different approach. That is, trying to do the Gary Doer thing, here in BC. I think Vaughn Palmer is right when he says that if the NDP can elect 30 or more, James will have an easier time keeping the NDP in that "moderate" position. Why? James can prove a moderate NDP will get support.

The Greens are a different party altogether, I don't think they share the same political territory of the NDP. To tell you the truth, I don't know where the Greens stand. They seem to be all over the place — an umbrella of disaffected voters. They definitely have lefties, but they also have many conservative supporters.

As for the electorate being more conservative than the "Liberals" would like to admit, yes the US has voted the Republicans in twice but both elections were close, damn near 50 - 50, things will swing back as they always do.

As for the electorate being more conservative than the "Liberals" would like to admit, yes the US has voted the Republicans in twice but both elections were close, damn near 50-50, things will swing back as they always do.

There I am repeating myself again, damn.

Carr did nothing to increase her constituency in the environmental movement by ousting Stuart Parker in the equivalent of a palace coup. There remains a core of activists out there who despise her, and will hold there noses as they cast NDP ballots.

That said, she has also been a dismal failure as a leader, especially after her petulant reaction to the Citizens' Assembly report. If she fails to win her seat, AND increase popular vote, they will rightly turf her as leader.

There must be a better leader out there for them; somebody who is both more compelling as a speaker, and more temperate under pressure....

Correction: the Conservatives did not sweep Gibsons federally. Nicholas Simons (who was also the federal candidate) won Gibsons, Roberts Creek and the entire Powell River-Sunshine Coast portion of the West Van-SC riding. The Green candidate, Andrea Goldsmith, is a Gibsons councillor who was touted as one of the Greens' "star candidates" federally but Simons clearly established himself as the best candidate for progressive voters on her home turf -- just as he is doing against Carr in the provincial campaign. The Conservatives did "sweep" Sechelt and Pender Harbour, just enough to slip by the Liberals' first-place showing in West Van/Whistler.

I'd be surprised if Adriane (I've finally learned to spell her name) didn't win this time. Powell River isn't safe territory for either of the major powers, and Carr had her profile elevated considerably in the debate. Not that she spoke particularly well.

A Green/NDP coalition would get rid of the Fibs..their platforms are closer than one might think.

During the last election the NDP's popularity was at a record low, due to a variety of legitimate reasons. On top of that, the Powell River-Sunshine Coast NDP candidate was an incumbent NDP cabinet minister with ties to Glen Clark and for many elections and local issues before the local NDP's most constant opponent -- alienating many longtime NDP supporters. Yammer, 2001 was Adriane Carr's best chance (and don't forget she was in a provincial debate then, too) and the most she could muster was a 27% third-place finish. That's her high-water mark, and with an excellent and popular NDP candidate this time around, she has no chance surpassing it.

The picture painted here of Carr swooping down
out of nowhere to wrest the Green Party away from Stuart Parker (to whom it "rightfully" belonged),is misleading.
I admired Parker, a committed, intelligent, articulate leader who served the Greens well.But he didn't start the Green Party in B.C. Adriane Carr was there right from the beginning. She was one of the people who were enthusiastic about what Greens as a political party were accomplishing in Europe. They wanted to organize a Green Party for B.C.
I recall attending the first public organizing meeting, which took place at the Vancouver Museum in the early '80s.I was writing a Langara college (english course) essay about the new party.Carr,a Langara geography instructor then, was very helpful to me in loaning articles and documents she'd collected, and in speaking to me about her ideas (thanks Adriane!). Carr helped organize that meeting and spoke of her dream of a B.C. Green party. It was an open ended meeting where anyone could take the floor to contribute ideas for the fledgling party. I doubt Stuart Parker was there. He certainly wasn't involved in starting the party, and was likely an elementary school student at the time.
Taking nothing away from Parker, I wanted to point out Carr was there right from the start. It's because of her and others that a Green Party began in B.C., and she deserves lots of credit for that, including from Parker, who came into the party riding the coat tails of Carr and others.

Richard, please do some research before you go bashing Green Party candidates simply because they are young. Check out this article.

http://www.interior-news.com/portals-code/list.cgi?paper=31&cat=23&id=424257&more=

As far as I am concerned, Carr betrayed the greens when she attacked the citizens assembly and their recommendations.
She then went along and said that she would vote no to electoral reform. What an idiot. What a prema donna.
Compare the number of elected greens in Ireland under STV with the number of elected greens in the united Kingdom under the straight vote.
Is green supposed to equate to stoopid?
Green policy will only be implimented if greens get elected.
Sometimes the other partys will shift a bit to green to steal their thunder and that is a victory in itself.
BUT they have to get elected to make this happen.
The greens in Ireland get less than 4 % of the vote so they wouldnt get any seats in mmp. (They usually have a 5% cutoff in mmp). There are about 6 greens in the irish parliament.
http://www.greenparty.ie/
The sooner she gets kicked out the better.
Brian White

if carr take the next step in this election she never will. she'll never have this opportunity again, she's up against the drunk and the dud.

WOW! This is a new low for the Tyee. This hatchet-job on Adriane and the Greens, passing itself off as journalism, is made up of more half-truths and distortions than I could have ever conjoured up from the depths of the worst case of dispepsia. Charles Campbell and David Beers - do you have no shame?! I used to write features for the Straight and I had some respect for you but this piece of ca-ca is so blatantaly objectional that I am stupefied. I live on the Sunshine Coast, I work on Adriane's campaign, and readers should know - she stands an excellent chance of being elected on E-day. In all-candidates meetings she smokes the liberal half-wit and the ndp lightweight so evidently that all but the fervent zealots leave telling us "she's got my vote". What is happening up here is the NDP is targeting and phoning G-party supporters on the coast and harassing them about 'splitting the vote' which is a work of fiction if ever there was one. Clearly the NDP zealots, and I count Beers and Campbell among them, think nothing of distorting demoncracy in favour of your petty agenda. Get out of my riding!! And what happened to the convention that other parties acknowledged other party leaders by not campaigning in their riding?! Is that just a little convention you N-Dippers decided to overlook?! You also threw your campaign signs up a month early up here! And as for Carole James' little sail-past on Earth Day at Roberts Creek - that was an extreme joke, and obviously the writer wasn't there - 'cuz he would have seen how phony and staged it was when Carole was mainfested from a handful of stoolies that suddenly showed to start clapping ... WOW, what an NDP gag-fest this magazine has become. Pity.

Frankly (sorry Frank), if the Green Party were to increase the share of the vote, and I wouldn't rule it out, I suspect it might seep out of the Liberals rather than from the NDP.

It looks to me that some of the red Tories, frighted by the Alliance's complete take over of the federal Conservative Party, and pissed off provincially at Campbell's efforts to crush any sense of social responsibility for residents have parked in the handy Green zone.

They certainly aren't going to come to the NDP, so the Greens with that allure of nice, well-meaning and harmless people who hug their dog and eat veggies all the time.

Personally, I think if this new union of red and green sticks it is going to have an interesting future as those to groups try to
push counter agendas.

bc4me, of course you wouldn't be diving into with this discussion without a wee conflict of interest, would you?

I think Carr's chances have a lot less to do with her personal attributes, or lack of them, and one hell of a lot to do with the unjust, undemocratic and authoritarian first past the post system. Many people who might vote Green won't for fear of getting the hard-right "Liberals", back in power.

"The average North American is way more Conservative than the Liberals would like to admit."

Where do you get that info Ron? Certainly the USians are more right wing than just about any other people on the planet, but Canadians? We overwhelmingly reject that authoritarian crap. Check your polls and surveys - we are a liberal country.

Anarcho: That's what Ron living in Mexico would like to believe...but even then, what does "conservative" mean?

What the heck are you people talking about? If Adriane Carr gave a darn about the environment, she would throw all her support to the NDP right now! Get real guys! Any vote that detracts from the NDP vote is going to re-elect the most ugly and repugnant anti-environment government we have ever had! I suggest this. If you, Adriane Carr REALLY care about BC's environment, you will ask all your supporters to vote NDP, to stop the inevitable offshore drilling and subsequent oil spills that will destroy the natural state of BC FOREVER!!! It should not be about YOU GETTING A POLITICAL CAREER!!! It should be about future generations owning and controlling and PROTECTING our environment, and if that involves voting for ALIEN BEINGS TAKING OVER THE PLANET, then it should be done! What do you think being an MLA will achieve if the oceans and streams and forests are totally destroyed and sold off for a few dollars FOREVER??? Do you think mankind will survive regardless of all that is done to destroy it? Try to remove yourself from the bullshit that is our local media and vote based on what will happen that CAN NEVER BE UNDONE!!! WAKE UP! This is the LAST chance to save our environment! 4 or 5 years from now is TOO LATE!!!! Stop pussy footing around the main points! I don't care if the NDP believed there was a perpetual motion machine and invested 50 billion dollars in it, it wouldn't be as bad as what the Liberals are doing to this province, and worst still, this planet. THROW THESE AMERICAN STYLE THUGS, OUT OF OFFICE! If you don't you will only have yourself to blame when you can't drink the water, or eat the food...PLEASE! Don't let our beautiful province be raped and pillaged by a few incredibly greedy and selfish people!

Thanks for allowing me to get that off my chest...I am soooo frustrated by the constant LIES in our media that I can stand it no longer...

Richard, I phoned you to see if you wanted to talk about my Aunt and the reason why i was running, but you declined. Then you say that the only reason i am running is for a chance to 'yell at my aunt'. Perhaps you might want t o tell your readers that we didn't talk. You make me sound like a wacko. How about you ask me the real reason i am running? I thought the Tyee was a journalistic enterprise, one that tells the whole story. I am running becuase I am sick of BC's Big Labour/Big business, Left/Right bipolar politics. Everybody screaming but noboody saying anything. The Green's have real ideas.

Actually Richard, if i remember correctly, you said "I was going to talk to you about the email you sent for an article, but i didn't end up writing it." Why did you lie to me on the phone today?

Gordo Alert!
The two most recent polls show the NDP's momentum has evaporated (explained partly by the sad BCTF story). Fiberals have pulled way ahead. Vaughn Palmer looked at the polls and says Fiberals could easily win 4 dozen seats, to the NDP's 2 dozen wins, a bunch of toss up ridings, PLUS ONE GREEN WIN POSSIBLE! Palmer's another pundit who thinks the Greens just possibly could break through.
There you have it environmentalists.You needn't worry anymore that a Green vote could help elect Campbell, because the NDP no longer has a chance! Therefore, you can feel free to vote your conscience.
I say, send NDP and Fiberals alike an important message by voting GREEN!
I hope the NDP will take away from this looming defeat, that if they want to win next time, they'd better get serious enough about environmental issues to cooperate with the Greens next time, instead of vilifying them.If this also means cutting some cosy NDP ties to big labour unions, so be it.

Dear Bobb999 - The only problem with voting green is the complete lack of a viable plan to run the province, along with the total absence of a leader who could possibly carry out the plan.

It's regrettable Green's who moved out of the NDP camp didn't recognize those facts long ago, (as is the case of the four past NDP premier's who have distanced themselves from the "Old Guard" by swinging over to the Liberal's over the last four years.)

Mr. Binette
PS, I would appreciate it if you would stop referring to Liberals as the "Fiberals" it makes you sound like the rabid cow above.

Mr Binnette sez "I would appreciate it if you would stop referring to Liberals as the "Fiberals" "

How bout lying, corrupt, arrogant, treasonous, neoconazi scum then?

Thanks anarcho - one n and two t's with an e on the end. - why so caustic?

Mr. Binette

I can't believe the BCTF would screw up like this, giving the Fibs the election on a platter.

How stupid can you be?

Everyone sure seem to be caught up in different
"isms." Make it easy on yourself and judge each
candidate on WHO you think they kneel to when
they pray. Is it GOD or MAMMON? Then make your
Mark.
Mat:6:24

It isn't going to happen, but yeah, I think you're right, they are two peas out of the same pod. Mostly its competing "sibling issues".

And Jeeves, I don't see anything wrong with teachers planning on acting on a return of their right to strike, after it was summarily and undemocratically denied them by (catch this Binnette) the Fiberals. Either workers have the right to strike in this country, or we are back in the age of Roman Slavery-, which, (again Binny) the Fiberals would dearly love.

Either teachers have the right to strike as part of the bargaining process, which takes considerable lead time preparation, or they do not. (And ask me if I would be surprised if the NDP let the anti-strike edict against the teachers stand.)

If we are going to have an NDP government conduct itself as a Fiberal one, what's the point of this election exercise?

Better we face the truth now.

Give teachers the same rights as every other group of union workers. (The wee bairns will survive the trauma. It's mostly the parents and the pressure they will bring to bear on the State who will suffer, having to make alternate baby sitting arrangements for what, a day or two, maybe two weeks? Solution: a society wide day care plan, NOT abrogating workers rights.)

But if we really want to take strikes out of all sectors of the economy, there is a "relatively" simple solution: End private ownership and control of the economy and its institutions, democratize the ownership and control power, yes, even of education, creating a joint partnership of teachers and community interests, with equal power.

How would that help, might ask the neoconfascists, who can't see outside the corporate box they've been consigned to like a coffin?

In such an arrangement, assuming it is real and not fiction in form and substance, it would be like the teachers/educators and community striking against itself. Simple. Problem solved.

But NO, right? The right wing, including many NDPers, prefer the current Class Strife arrangement of "offical" and inequitable Private Enterprise applied to all levels of governance, including education, Hydro, ICBC etc, which inevitably leads to strikes and lock outs to resolve their social class disputes.

You just can't have your cake and eat it too. A New Democratic Model of Society and The Economy Is The Answer, not anti-labour legislagtion and special ownership and control priviledges to a ruling elite.

Or is it a rocky void out in a barren field, or even an old coke bottle lying in the weeds, after having fallen out the sky by a passing 747?

(How many saw that movie, The Gods Must Be Crazy?)

One "belief" is pretty much as good as another, like say, Deism versus Animism. Actually, Animism makes more sense to me, and I think it's hocus pocus. At least critters I can see and discern with my senses.

Coyote: In the Fraser Valley Protestant "Bible Belt", most voters pray to a Biblical God and to his son (but not usually to his Mom - what do they have against his Mom?). Come election time, they vote in the party of our provincial demi-God of Mammon, Gordo.
They like to have it both ways: God AND Mammon.

Now Greens are closer to your animism idea.Their site gives "ecological wisdom" as a tenet, which has some spiritual implications. They don't flaunt this idea. They don't wish to be written off as "New Agers", but they are open to ideas of "Earth Wisdom",
Some Christians would refuse to vote Green if they perceived any New Age beliefs. I'm not sure about Protestants, but at least among Catholics there exists a strain of thought that nature is sacred: St. Francis of Assisi talked to the animals. Recently, Father Thomas Berry has developed a theology of sacredness of the Earth, saying radical things such as that we should put the Bible on a shelf for twenty years while we re-learn God's wisdom and presence found in the natural world.

Jeeves, this misleading news about a teachers strike is not the fault of the BCTF, but it is clear evidence of the kind of province we are now living in, fueled on lies by a compilcit media, Can West Global, that is in collusion with the BC Liberals.

The Vancouver Sun reported a memo with sensationalist headlines about a strike but the details of the memo, what it actually said (who pays any attention to that anymore?)reveals that there is no intention of any strike, that job action wouldn't even be possible before the school year ends. The president of the BCTF has said she expects to reach a collective agreement at the bargaining table.

What you have is a complete distortion of the truth, intentionally driven by Canwest Global to further facilitate The Gordon Campbell Fiberal agenda and help to get them re-elected, you don't need a fascist police force, the people of this province are being controlled by the velvet hammer of misinformation, more genteel than brute force but just as effective.

I gave my vote to the NDP in the advance poll on Thursday. I'm counting on them to come through ...if they, too, begin to dissipate the right to strike, in favour of a nice well-behaved "civilized" society with no life or fight left in it in defense of human rights, that's my last vote until something better comes along...until then I'll just swing in our hammock, read a good book and listen to the birds sing.

"complicit" media

The "isms" that most on the left or right worry
about is Socialism and Fascism. Yes?

Whatever, this whole article is a desperate attempt by the old guard to discredit the only party with real ideas.

Two peas in a pod? Look at the Green's economic policy. Cutting taxes? doesn't sound ndp to me. Decentralization. Ditto.

If consumers switch to a new and better product, do you criticise the new product? Or do you make a better one?

jeeves; you ain't seen nothin' yet. now they will sit down with the gov't and try to negotiate a contract. when that doesn't happen, (would you give your kid his allowance after he told you to f off?) they'll complain about not being treated fairly by the rightwing capitalist oppressive pigs and blather blather blather. then in the fall they'll ask their members to hit the bricks and a large percentage of them will refuse.
what a bloody joke and what a bloody bunch of idiot morons! laugh my ass off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lynn:I agree CanWest Global is a disgrace, and you're probably right they played up the BCTF angle in a manipulative way, to discredit the NDP.
The Aspers own Vancouver media to a degree not seen elsewhere in Canada. National Post, Vanc. Sun, The Province, Dose,Global TV are all Asper possessions(is CKNW/Corus related to CanWest too?). Media owners typically have not interfered in the minutae of news and editorial content, to the degree the Aspers have. As friends/apologists of Chretien,the Aspers fired
the editor of their Ottawa Citizen for calling on Chretien to resign. Who knows whether the sponsorship scandal might have come to light much sooner if we didn't have such a large segment of the media in the hands of Chretien apologists. In B.C.,on the legislature raid emerging scandal, much more potentially could have come to light by now, if our news media wasn't dominated by Fiberal apologists. The Aspers promote an ultra-hawkish Israeli slant on the Middle East. Woe be it to an editorial writer who dares deviate from official CanWest doctrine! Their take on environmental issues, particularly in their flagship Post, consists of avoidance, denials about global warming, and a generally "brown" agenda.
I am pleased to see CanWest continuing to lose the national newspaper war. Post readership is down 20%+, while the Globe's numbers too are down, but in the low single digits (the Net is hurting all hard copy subscription papers).
Personally, I'm content to boycott any and all Asper products. I won't contribute a cent to their bottom line (I will read Vaughn Palmer in the library occasionally).

I hope the NDP will take away from this looming defeat, that if they want to win next time, they'd better get serious enough about environmental issues to cooperate with the Greens next time, instead of vilifying them.

This is an odd statement. I can't recall a moment during this election where the NDP has vilified the Greens, at least at the leadership level. James didn't attack the Greens during the debates (both TV and radio), in fact, it was vise versa. Sure, the last few days the NDP has been saying a vote for the Greens is a vote for Campbell. Despite how people may feel about this tactic (or even the statement itself), there is an element of truth to it.

As for me, I'll consider the Greens if/when they get a new leader.

If consumers switch to a new and better product, do you criticise the new product? Or do you make a better one?

I think your premise is flawed. Your assunption is that it's a better product. That hasn't been proven.

hope the NDP will take away from this looming defeat

One more thing. How could this election possibly be seen as a defeat for the NDP? The party was on the brink of oblivion just 4 years ago, now they're looking at picking up possibly 30 seats. That was incomprehensible after the last election. In my books that's a victory, not the sign of a party on the way out.

I find it amazing that a professional reporter, even if they are working for Canwest, would purposely distort a situation and especially to the degree this Vancouver Sun reporter did.

There is no excuse for this. A journalist with years of experience simply doesn't misinterpret newsletters to that degree.

So, was he or she forced to write the lies by the editor? Did the reporter intentionally distort the information on his or her own?

What is really sad is that the CBC ran this same lie, which tells me local CBC editors are either asleep at the switch or also pushing an agenda.

It's quite fucking scary actually.

bc4me... whoa!!! Let's not get too excited here. Big deal about NDP putting signs on the Sunshine Coast before the election. They were all quite legally on private property, which almost all of them still are, as opposed to the Green signs strewn along the side of the roads. And what is this nonsense about some kind of "convention" not to campaign in another leader's riding??????? Where did you ever get this idea from?
Adriane might get 25%, Maureen Clayton might get 30%, and Nicholas Simons will get 45%.

Ehhhh, do it gal. It's amazing watching the land come back to life after the winter. My son in law and I are heading up into avalanche chute country, to see if we can spot, and with a little luck, shoot some photos of grizz. It's like Xmas eve when you're a kid.

Jeez BC4me, get a life and stop being so paranoid! Being as how I'm running the phone canvass for Nicholas Simon's campaign I can tell you that we are absolutely NOT targeting Green voters and harassing them about splitting the vote. Where did you get that ridiculous idea? We have enough work to do phoning the voters list and identifying our own support without wasting time trying to convert Green voters. Sheesh!

All candidates debates are a joke and everyone knows it. There are usually no undecideds attending; the audience consists of equal numbers of people who have already made up their minds and show up to support their candidates.

And for your clarification, we did have our signs up before the writ was dropped. Billy is absolutely right; all our signs were on private property which is quite legal. And 99.9% of them still are. We only put signs up when people ask for them. Definitely different than your party where we have had many phone calls from voters complaining that yours were erected close to their yards to look like they had been requested.

Adriane hasn't got a hope in hell of winning this riding so start looking for a new leader. You know when you lose three elections that you're pretty well toast. P.S. Get out of my riding; I've been here 37 years. You?

verso and allan: thanks for your thoughts.

The best the Greens can do this time around is vote NDP and STV.

If I lived in a riding where the Green party was polling ahead of the NDP I'd vote Green. Under FPTP its just natural to vote for the party who has the best chance of defeating the party you don't want.

I think it would be great if there were some Green voices in the leg but unfortunately it probably isn't going to happen this time around. So hold your nose and vote for the party with the best chance of defeating the Libs while keeping your powder dry for next time by voting for STV.

If the situation was reversed I'd vote Green in a heartbeat.

In regards to the Canwest empire and the Vancouver Sun's increasingly biased coverage (ie. boosterism) of the provincial Liberals, the word came down from the Sun editors several days ago that reporters are not allowed to cover "certain" stories any longer (until the election is over).

Unfortunately I can't reveal which ones, but needless to say they are on subjects that hurt the Liberals.

I used to buy the Sun about 5 times a week - I am now starting my official boycott - joining my boycott of the Van Province and the Post.

I expect the corporate media to play precisely the partisan role they do. But I agree with you, as a lifelong CBC listener, it is this editorial stance of the public broadcaster, revealed in the right wing weighting and kinds of opinions they go to, even the friggin' Fraser Institute, all the damned time, as if they really had "scientific" credibility that is especially shocking in the current period. I mean, this neocon crew get control of the Fed, and they'll have these CBC guys asses delivered up to CanWest quicker than you can say, "dickey doo!"

Time for an employee/public revolt at CBC, no less then anywhere else throughout the capitalist economy.

The writing is on the wall CBC. Time to decide, which side are you on?

But then, it would seem they have decided. It's like they've decided to slit their own throats and crawl off into a ditch and just die somewhere.

It's part of the great hari-kari (Seppuku) public spectacle going on everywhere right now that has one, certainly on the left, shaking their head and asking themselves, "Now where the fuck did that one come from?"

I agree with Frank above as my voting rationale. I wasn't and ain't happy with it, and I won't be surprised if even that doesn't work. (Folks tend to like a perceived winner, and right now, that isn't the left in any way, shape or form, at least in the media creation of it-, which working class folks just have to experience more of, it seems, and get beyond. Hope the ruling class media is calling it wrong, but right now, until there's a movement of people on the streets that can cut through the bullshit, they've got The Power.)

Enough is enough.

A pox on both FIBERAL HOUSES.

The Fiberal, Michiavellian monologue is a
monotonus monody of monolithic monomania.
Mendatious to all voters with malodorous,
malevolent malice.
Gordo's malignant, mephitic malfeasance must
be manacled to mortifying minority status by the voters with merciless, moral outrage.

Patricia, couldn't you just sort of slip a brown E-nvelope through one of Tyee's portals?

It's always good to know ahead of time the news a newspaper won't be bringing you.

Why can't you say which ones Patricia? Is your job at risk? There are plenty of ways to do these things anonymously.

If you have some info that the public should have, aren't you kind of obligated to find some way to do that?

I agree allan...news that we will assure beforehand will never become news...not if we can help it...how comforting.... sort of like The Fawlty Towers episode "Whatever You Do Don't Mention the War".

Funny and damn scary at the same time.

I think we can guess some of the verboten topics declared off limits to Sun reporters:
-anything to do with the legislature raid scandal.
-Stories tallying up Liberal broken promises.
-Stories tallying up Liberal privatizations of public assets and operations kept hidden during the last campaign: BC Rail, Hydro, Ferries, Parks, all have faced various degrees of sell off by Fiberals.
-Any stories considering the possibility of Liberals reprising their "lie and privatize" policy: last time, BC Rail, this time ICBC? Expanded BC Hydro privatization? More Parks sell offs to resort developers?
-Any stories of eyewitnesses encountering a stinko, stumbling Gordo weaving a path to his parked car,while jingling his keys and singing
incoherently.
-[Insert your own favourite]

-[Insert your own favourite]:
how about the truth?

Did anybody else hear about a voting register party in the downtown eastside that either Global or CTV(sorry, my neighbor saw it, not me) covered where some group served hotdogs + drinks to help raise the voter count in the area apparently that area it's about 30% compared to provincial average of 55% and of course some one - Libs maybe? - complained that they were trying to influence the voters? Anybody know about this?

The event at Openheimer park was not organized by any political party, but there were many angry citizens. Maybe Liberals don't like angry. Maybe they should have thought of that before the cuts.

Well seeing as...
it's the night before voting
and all through BC
the people are nervous
they're as tense as can be
I caution the green voter
to stop for a sec
look to the future
and say what the heck
this time I'll vote NDP
and stop all the poop
'cause if Campbell gets back in
we're all in hot soup!

Arthur Amen amego.

..or would that be amigo

adriane who???????

An NDP loss today, with a strong Green showing, may make a NDP-Green coalition a possibility
for 2009. If the NDP sees that the Greens are not fading away, I hope they'll come to their senses
and decide that "if you can't beat them, join them". If we have to wait till '09 for that winning combo, it is the NDPs fault, for rebuffing Carr's previous overtures for cooperation.
I hope that'll teach 'em.

My Green vote, with thousands of others, will serve to alert all parties that the environment is more important than the partisan politics many spew here. In its frenzy to support the NDP even the Tyee has overlooked the fact that voting is all about reflecting your wishes to the government. I want them to see MY wish is to put more emphasis on the environment. Apparently many of you wish to reflect your wish for more partisan politics. I do not expect for one moment that the Greens will form the government and I don't care if it is the Liberals or the NDP who lies, cheats and steals from me for the next four years. But...someday, when enough people are brave enough - or desperate enough for clean air and water - to vote for a party makes the environment a priority - ALL parties will realize that the 'environment' is where their voters live. How else to make it an issue than to vote for it? Go Greens!

One thing should indeed now be obvious. Ms Carr at best is a mediocre candidate. A leader she is not.

having witnessed up close how the WCWC operated back in the day (1988-1991) I can correctly characterize Carr's Green Party as the Green With Envy Party. Instead of co-operating with groups like the Sierra Club and Greenpeace Adrienne, Paul and their cohorts treated the environmental playing field as a battleground where other groups supporting the same cause were enemies on WCWC turf. It didn't take me long to conclude that it was all about trying to win the war for funding and members. After meeting these people a number of times I got the feeling that they were in it for grandiosity and something else that I fear to articulate on the grounds that I will look like a drooling paranoid....what the hell...it's obvious that they have become the Socred's (read: BC Libs) best weapon against the NDP. Here goes...what if AC and PG are a sleeper cell installed by a covert branch of the Republican Party to ensure that neo cons would maintain power in BC long enough for all the oil and natgas to be sucked out of our seabeds...food for thought

o boy...yeah that sounds like drooling paranoia but the reality is there...Greens in BC could ultimately be responsible for the final devastation of our environment. The bottom line with AC's Green party is that they are not capable of rising above the typical tone of your average school yard dust up.. they are emotionally immature with very little political acumen