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I hope he has a speedy

I hope he has a speedy recovery.

If you go to the cbc and

If you go to the cbc and read the comments at their version of this story you will see the true colours of the Harper supporters. pretty sickening and disgusting comments there from Canada's right.

question dan

Which cbc site?

Best wishes to Jack

Many of us have lost friends to prostate cancer. Not surprising with it being the most common cancer in Canada. We wish Jack all the best and a speedy recovery.

Fortunately Jack has the right idea. As he said of his father who had the same illness.

"His treatments were successful, and I intend to bring to this battle the same sense of determination and optimism that he did."

Optimism is always important. Irregardless of the issue.

Jack is also looking forward to being able, during this difficult time, to catch some of the Vancouver/Whistler Olympics.

"I may have a bit more time to catch the Olympics."

Let's hope that he enjoys what undoubtedly will be a fabulous event for all of Canada.

not quite accurate

What Layton actually said, jokingly, was this:
“the schedule of my treatment regime means I may have a bit more time to catch the Olympics.” (G&M)

No mention of what he thinks about the 'circus'....

So...

I assume he will get treatment in Canada.

Unlike Danny boy?

No not quite accurate either.

Neither initial text quote was precise. He added that our athletes will inspire all of us. That's no joke and he didn't present it as such.

"Maybe I'll have time, a little more time to catch the Olympics on tv and so I can be inspired by our athletes as they exercise determination and they'll inspire all of us."

http://www.cbc.ca/politics/story/2010/02/05/jack-layton.html

Determination, optimism, courage and inspiration for him and for everyone from our athletes.

http://www.radio-canada.ca/nouvelles/Politique/2010/02/05/001-Jack-Layton.shtml

happy

"Danny boy" is one of your guys.

Just so!

As long as he's not inspired by the cynical liars who call themselves politicians in 'this' jurisdiction.

Oh. Actually, I take that back

Anyone who's more than 18 years old who's inspired by any athlete is either a liar or a confidence man....or, retarded.

Or they haven't been living in this century.

Calling Jack Layton a liar ...

Is there anyone you don't insult?

Frank

One of my guys? I thought his war with Harper over oil revenues endeared him to the anti-Con crowd but I stand corrected.
Heck, I was just trying to be fair to Layton b/c he's taken a fair bit of flack in the past over that operation he had done at a Toronto private clinic in the 90's.
Just can't please anybody around this joint...

There were other options

Please read the post again...it said very clearly a liar, a confidence man or 'retarded'...

As for that being an insult - hardly, it's simply the truth. Any adult who needs sports heroes to do the right thing is definitely retarded.

And happy, my understanding is that the Shouldice hernia clinic, though private, does take payments from medicare and the hospital costs and surgery fees are covered by OHIP.

Jack did get a bad rap on that one because there was absolutely nothing wrong with what he did....

happy

Hey, anyone that thumbs his nose at Harper will get some bouquets thrown his way from this corner but that doesn't mean I'm letting a Conservative premier into my tent.

He wears your label, he's your guy unless you wish to say he isn't.

The Shouldice

Sort of like The Cambie Surgery Centre.

Nice place:
http://www.shouldice.com/ShouldiceHospitalScan.htm

Don't think so

As far as I know the Cambie Surgery Centre is not a non-profit outfit. In fact, it's at the forefront of attempts to ruin the health care system in this country - along with Danny Williams.

You may have forgotten that the Shouldice Clinic is a non-profit institution.

In fact, it's nothing at all like the Cambie Surgery Centre - something anyone who's done any real self-education on the health system and its history in this country would know.

Here, I'll give you a leg up or you may suffer a hernia:

http://www.healthcoalition.ca/shouldice2.pdf

Shouldice

Let me open your eyes if you're squinting and having difficulty.

Legal due to a grandfather clause. Not exactly non-profit though.

http://lloydtown.blogeasy.com/article.view.run?articleID=313415

The Cambie Surgery Centre (CSC)

"The Workers Compensation Board (WCB) was one of the first supporters of the CSC. Injured workers could be treated within weeks, rather than waiting a year or more in the public system. The WCB saved millions of dollars annually in reduced costs and workers suffered greatly reduced disability. Other federal and provincial agencies have joined the WCB in supporting the centre."

http://www.csc-surgery.com/history.php

You're kidding

And spinning blogposts as evidence now.

If you actually knew anything about what Worksafe BC cares about saving you'd have something useful to say.

You don't. AND you can't.

Take a few minutes and look at how derelict worksafe BC actually is in going about what ought to be its real purpose - helping injured workers and policing unsafe work places.

I'm not surprised they'd support scum like the Cambie centre...it's entirely in character.

As for Shouldice - I could care less

I'm not trying to defend them - just explain what they are and why they're legal and the Cambie Surgery and the False Creek Medical Centre or the Copeman Clinic (with all their fawning ads on CKNW) are nothing but moral black holes.

Here in BC or in Alberta (among other places) we have selfish and corrupt individuals in power; characters who care more about their friends' profits than their responsibility for the fundamental health care of citizens - such bottom dwellers are allowed to highball on low risk surgery at the expense of the public system.

They siphon off the Cream of low risk repetitive procedures without actually contributing to the overall benefit of society while the government shuts down wards and closes operating theatres and diagnostic machines which could and should be in action night and day.

Until we get a government that understands what it is to be a real dedicated public servant and not simply a shill or a supporter's profit centre things in the health care field are going to get worse....for everyone except for that small elite with the money to do whatever they damn well please.

It is a recipe for disaster.

Don't worry

The couldn't give a hoot either; unless you can come up with the readies.

Huh?

'THE' couldn't give a hoot either....

A few too many beers last night I guess.

Your buddies with the money, like your friend who goes to Asia for health care, are not likely to give a 'hoot' either.

That's the problem - just a bunch of takers and cheats who play the game with the table tilted.

Nice friends, nice idols!

Quick Treatment

Knowing other men with prostrate cancer, I was surprised at how quickly Jack got in for treatment. So either Ontario has a wonderful system that isn't that busy or Jack jumped a queue.

But the CBC nor any other Toronto based media outlet would look into that.

I'm not sure who you know

But prostate cancer treatment programs depends upon an evaluation of several variables including the type and virulence of cells involved.

Without knowing exactly what kind of cancer cells turned up in Layton's prostate it's completely impossible to evaluate or comment about any aspect of his treatment.

If you actually knew anything about the protocols used by oncologists you wouldn't give the impression that 'knew' anything about the disease or its differential treatment because it's absolutely clear you don't.

Something else you know nothing about: The ethical considerations doctors must observe when they're treating their patients.

One of the canons which must be observed is privacy - a consideration 'real' media organizations as opposed to speculating amateurs like yourself actually understand.

Personally, I think Mr. Layton would have been far wiser to keep his medical condition to himself.

Your suggestion is offensive.

Sask Resident

You're wrong, if its serious and depending on what the ailment is you can get in pretty darn fast.

Why not spend your time instead questioning why a Conservative premier went to the USA?