The Hook

I'm afraid ..................

................ that I agree with the previous poster in so far that the Suzuki Foundation is an elitist outfit that does what is good for itself.

They have lost their way!

I'm afraid ..................

................ that I agree with the previous poster in so far that the Suzuki Foundation is an elitist outfit that does what is good for itself.

They have lost their way!

Nice try, though, Squinter

You need to back off (just a touch) on the hot-button rhetoric if you're going to be any good as a Liberal scare-monger.

Spinning Enviros!

So now Gord Campbell has green spinners from actual green organizations!

The carbon tax shell game where we sound like we are doing something, but actually are doing worse!

How does Suzuki sleep at night? Is his mattress stuffed with money?

We need a precipice!

the carbon tax

is nothing more than a punishment tax. Greenies want to hit the SUV crowd, and don't think past that.

The recession has done more for reducing greenhouse gas than any carbon tax can. So has educating the public on this issue. People are buying those light bulbs, taking up gardening and buying hybrids to name a few.

Earth to Otis

I lost my forestry job because of urban-twit-environmentalists

The old NDP/IWA never would have put up with that, that's the reality we need to fight for

How do you sleep at night?

James will need a big defence

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20090413.wbcelection0414/BNStory/Front/home

The Climate Scam

How cold does it have to get before people understand the whole thing was and is a fraud? There hasn't been any warming since 1998, the Pacific Decadal Oscillation switched to its cool phase last year meaning 20-30 years very much like the 1945-1977 period and the Sun has gone so quiet that there is worry about a repeat of a Dalton Minimum like period.http://www.drroyspencer.com/global-warming-natural-or-manmade/

Debating carbon taxes vs cap and trade is crazy when CO2 can't change climate. It is is much easier to get rid of a tax than a system which which will feed the financial oligarchy that just brought us a depression.

That said, the Liberals have to go, but the NDP has got to wake up to the fraud being perpetrated.

"Climate change has now become so
highly politicized that one wonders whom
or what to trust. It turns out that the
legitimate science in the successive UN
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate
Change assessment reports was laundered
to such a degree by a very small and select
group of experts and bureaucrats charged
with preparing the “summaries for
policymakers” that they are often
contradictory—indeed, some of the
scientific contributors have since
distanced themselves from these reports.
There has grown a whole industry of
taxpayer-funded climate modellers whose
equations can’t reproduce last week’s
weather let alone past climate change at
all, but whose crystal balls universally
forecast impending disaster (and of course
the urgent need for more research
money).Why haven’t physicists pointed
out the basic mistakes in the science?"
http://icecap.us/images/uploads/Pratt-TheProfessionalEdge119.pdf

No She WON'T

The CAMPBELL Tax is probably the most hated tax in the province - especially with people outside the hothouse of Vancouver - it's unfair to the poor and working poor and rewards Campbell's friends without, as I'm tired of pointing out, doing a single thing about reducing carbon emissions while still pretending that airplanes and cruise ships don't burn oil.

IF the CAMPBELL TAX were the only issue in the election Campbell would be gone tomorrow.

There are at least two dozen other chinks in the CEO's armor so it would be unwise to spend all one's time pointing out how big a liar the Campbell Government is on this phony issue.

I was kind of hoping that some of Carole Taylor's testimony from the Canada Line case would show up in some of the Opposition's ads.

I wonder what the CEO thinks of his former Finance Minister now.

carbon tax...

The NDP opposes the carbon tax because it isn't a carbon tax. It takes money from you when you fill up and redistributes it as a tax cut...generous maybe, but totally useless as a means to curtain usage of carbon intensive products, etc. A REAL carbon tax would use that revenue to nudge our society away from activities/purchases that harm the environment; it could be used to dramatically lower transit fares; subsidize/rebate the purchase of hybrid/zero-emittion vehicle...but this tax doesn't do a thing to lower our collective carbon footprint in BC. Why isn't this being reported or even talked about? Environmentalists are lining up to support the BC Liberal TAX GRAB.

BC Liberals Real Record on the Environment

And please people, remember, the Gas tax is scheduled to increase by 50% in July 2009. It's applied at the gas station & to every gigajoule we need to heat our homes.
As one person, who actually has a decent job and pay, that will literally wipe me out and put my budget into the red every single month. What about our seniors on fixed incomes, our low income people, all of our people who are losing their jobs, 23,000 in BC just in March alone?

I find it fascinating that these environmental groups have struck a deal with the Devil. For such smart folks, how could they not see the Campbell regime for the BS they've put out on environmental issues for the past 8 years. A quick recap of the BC Liberals real record on the environment:

-Strongly encouraged the increase in farmed salmon, with scientific evidence of the sea lice harm being done to wild salmon.
-Removing vast chunks of protected land from Agricultural Land Reserves to developer buddies and family members.
-Ever-increasing privatization and approval of Run of River projects with little environmental oversight, with all profits going to corporations, not to BC.
-Increasing interest in coalbed methane mining and extraction in salmon sensitive areas.
-No real plan other than to keep upping our taxes to decrease carbon emissions AND they didn't go after the real polluters, their buddies in industry.
-Gateway South Delta Perimeter project that will destroy valuable farming areas and spew vast amounts of toxic chemicals.
-Twinning the Port Mann, more cars, more pollution.
-Private power companies are being granted license to build power plants on streams and rivers of BC in ecologically sensitive areas.
- Tripling the size of Deltaport, at the estuary of the Fraser River threatens endangered resident orca whales and could very likely break the link in the chain of the Pacific Flyway for migratory birds.
-Installation of high voltage power lines through the backyards of residents of Tsawassen.

So with the real record easy to see, just what are those "environmental" groups getting for their support of Gordon Campbell & the BC Liberals?

I think this says it all and shows what a leader Ms. James really is for BC:

"We disagree with the environmental movement.... We believe a bad tax is a bad tax." — NDP Leader Carole James

Passenger Trains

I live in a town whose only public transit was the passenger rail which was cancelled so that Liberal party insider Peter Armstrong could acquire another "struggling government owned passenger rail service and turn it into an internationally renowned tourist attraction."

If residents now want to have friends and family visit who do not own a vehicle, we have to drive at least an hour to neighbouring towns to pick them up. And back.

In this situation, how does another gas tax in the guise of "a carbon tax" reduce greenhouse gas emissions?

Oh, that's right. Campbell sold the Budd cars off to an unnamed American collector before he was baptized into global warmism by Schwartzenegger. Must be just another one of those "mistakes of the past" he used to go on about when he was on the BoD of the BC Forest Alliance.

Maybe the real question now is "Are environmental model-spokespersons just another hereditary pseudo-elite?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeZtOGvLEyk

cap and trade..

in defense of 'cap and trade', here's an article that goes in depth somewhat and even has an example of where a cap-and-trade system works.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0413/p09s04-coop.html

fix the error

Garret Zehr wrote, "At yesterday's campaign launch, James also dismissed a recent report by UBC professor Mark Jaccard that...."

Jaccard is at Simon Fraser, not UBC.

Such small errors discredit news sources disproportionately. Please fix it!

Every Time Mark Jaccard's Name Comes Up ...

I keep thinking of his cheesy op-ed piece in the Vancouver Sun of April 10th, 2008. It was such a clearly partisan piece that no one can take his pronouncements in this election seriously in terms of academic or intellectual commentary.

They are simply no more neutral and no more believable that a party's election pamphletts.

http://www2.canada.com/vancouversun/news/editorial/story.html?id=814cd8a7-27f3-4262-85c2-b4b00a136c1b&p=1

Rural BC

The whole idea of a gas tax is fundamentally flawed. It punishes people who live in rural areas or towns not services very well by transit. The Enviros need to get out of their Kits condos or island hideaways and visit a real resource based working BC town.

Oh and while they're at it they should explain their glee at the government's gas tax but silent on the government's plan to build a mega Port Mann that will only increase cars on the road.

Fix the Tax

The Enviro's have slammed the Port Mann plan. Only problem is the NDP is now for it so it is not an election issue.

The problem with the Carbon Tax is that the revenue should have been used to fund solutions and the tax should not have been charged until the solutions were in place. Otherwise, it is just another tax that has no impact on Climate Change. The NDP should have promised to "Fix the Tax" instead of axing it.

http://everyoneforever.org/blogger/2008/12/provide-solutions-and-avoid-gas-tax.html

Ditto pkelly

I completely agree with pkelly when s/he says:

"The NDP opposes the carbon tax because it isn't a carbon tax. It takes money from you when you fill up and redistributes it as a tax cut...generous maybe, but totally useless as a means to curtain usage of carbon intensive products, etc. A REAL carbon tax would use that revenue to nudge our society away from activities/purchases that harm the environment; it could be used to dramatically lower transit fares; subsidize/rebate the purchase of hybrid/zero-emittion vehicle...but this tax doesn't do a thing to lower our collective carbon footprint in BC."

I also agree with bcliberals_suck as the carbon tax is a fancy bit of misdirection-apparently fooling even Dr. Suzuki!

rac

"Otherwise, it is just another tax that has no impact on Climate Change"

No problem, enviros support it anyway. The carbon tax and donations from corporations are way more important to them than salmon, forests, rivers and those other kinda slimy things.

As I understand it, when

As I understand it, when you're in a election campaign mode, you never go on the defence, you always go on the attack. For example, this gas tax deal, explain how flawed your opponents plan is (with 2,3, or 4 power points), then tell all who are listening, that your alternate plan has been explained in your position paper and it's there for all to read. I hope the NDP goes on the attack on Campbell and his back room antics over the last 8 years. But wait for about 2 to 3 weeks before election day.

Hijacking Enviromentalism

Weren't they just celebrating the Great Bear deal in some swanky restaurant?

Hijacking Environmentalism: Green Capitalists & BC's Carbon Tax
http://my.nowpublic.com/culture/hijacking-environmentalism-green-capitalists-bcs-carbon-tax

Corporate greens.......

To me it is quite obvious,the greens,Suzuki,WCWC,all of them,they know Gordon Campbell is the brown king,they know he`s a con man.........
What the greens are attempting to do is create a green bidding war,who will out green the other guy!
I would personaly support the carbon tax if the money was directed towards Transit,not transit in the lower mainland but transit in the province where none exists.
The E&M line on Vancouver island,piggyback semi trailers on rail(like BC Rail used to do)
But as it stands now,this gas/tax is useless,and despite the rhetoric from the green leaders,greenies will be voting to oust Gordon Campbell!
Right now it`s just a game of chicken,who will blink first.
The greens know that they will have more sway with the NDP than with Gordon Campbell.